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It's really best to create dwarf-sized stuff in your own dwarf fortress and abandon if you are going to roll with a dwarf adventurer.

On a new world gen, I initally use humans to run around and kill stuff because it's easy to find equipment and dwarves in DF mode will engrave depictions of said human adventurer striking down all manner of historical figures making plaintive gestures.

I like to embark on night creature lairs so the stuff I make for adventurers can be stored in them and are easy to find.

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DF Adventure Mode Discussion / Re: Storing Items
« on: February 16, 2012, 03:00:01 am »
If you leave it outside, I believe it scatters randomly, like when you abandon a fortress, but it never vanishes or becomes owned by anybody else or leaves the boundaries of the settlement.

Unless you store it in a store, or perhaps a house. I remember storing crap in people's hovels was possible in 40d but I'm not sure now.

Night Creature lairs make the best base of operations, because I know for sure stuff won't disappear from them.

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DF Adventure Mode Discussion / Re: New Release, New Questions!
« on: February 16, 2012, 02:56:16 am »
I have a question.

Do worlds generated still have hard-coded temperature gradients? I mean when the top and bottom of the region is either much colder or much warmer then one another, no matter what settings you use? Like your tiny region is a complete hemisphere with an arctic icecap at top and a tropical equator at the bottom?

I remembering being quite pissed when I set my temperatures to minimum of -20 and maximum -10 and constantly had 80% freezing tundra and glaciers and 20% steamy tropical rainforest at the bottom.

I can't download or check out the game out right now, or I'd confirm it myself.

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Well, that is an explanation of sorts, thanks. I can understand the concept of the sanctity of human life, but I don't think a clump of cells qualifies. A clump of cells is potential life, certainly. I'm still not sure about the philosophical concept of 'potential life' and how denying it's potential is a sort of evil. It seems like you could very well be saving that soul from the fires of hell by halting it's formation.

I suppose the other ideas and probably that idea as well, are based on theological thought not directly derived from the Bible, but rather something sort of generated and thought of as being compatible with with it. Church or denominational doctrine. In this case, the Catholic outlook of scrutinizing and finding technicalities for everything. I had no idea the 'all miscarriages go to hell' concept was from Dante. I figured Dante's Inferno was 'just a book' and the idea itself was another derived Catholic technicality.
Come to think of it, the philosophical outlook of human life being sacred seems to manifest itself most in Catholicism. They seem to have the most stringent rules against reproduction juices and whatnot.

So I imagine there are Christian outlooks that don't rule out abortion, well, besides Unitarians? What would their rationale be for that? Just that the Bible doesn't explicitly exclude it, we must be free to do it?

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General Discussion / Re: Are supranational unions the future?
« on: February 16, 2012, 02:11:12 am »
I believe the trend is going toward balkanisation. There are lots of independence/ secessionist movements in Europe especially. I'd say the trend toward balkanisation is still compatible with a supranational union, although a very loose, decentralized one.

There are not too many good arguments for secessionist movements unless it's clear they can survive independently and being part of a continuous union probably makes that easier for them, so they could very well be part of the same trend. Having a nation fracture into pieces is less disastrous if the individual pieces are still extremely friendly and cooperative with each other and don't even have border controls in place. Although, that doesn't say much for the purpose of succession in the first place, because more control in that country is held by organizations outside their national borders and whatever cultural or ethnic identity their nation is defined from.

So it's nationalism combined with confederation-ism. See how that pans out for them.

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I'm not sure how it is hard to understand the prospective at least. I mean, the idea is that these things have souls, and thus killing them is wrong. You don't need a bible to tell you killing things with souls is wrong and you don't even need a bible to know that these things have souls. You just need belief. I don't understand the idea that that is hard to understand.

Although it still hinges on if there is a soul generated at the moment of conception or not. Is this about original sin? If an unborn embryo dies before being baptized it goes to hell right? So if an zygote has a soul and there is a miscarriage or abortion it goes to hell before it can be born and, then I can see that being something they'd want to avoid, although it happens naturally.

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Iowa attempts total ban of abortion.

You know, I just realized that I don't really understand what the philosophical justification Christians are drawing from in their crusade to outlaw abortion. Does the bible mention something about a zygote, embryo or fetus being considered a full-fledged human being? Life begins at conception? I hear that latter term a lot but I don't belief it's in the Bible, is it? Does it just contradict the "be fruitful and multiply" guidance? Do they want to ban it just because it's an icky medical procedure to think about?


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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Beware the Zombie Mussel Shells!
« on: February 15, 2012, 03:06:56 pm »
We need to know what happens with zombie mussel shells dipped in forgotten beast extract. :o

I dunno, but I just realized how hungry I am.

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Magma sea shenanigans
« on: February 15, 2012, 03:03:20 pm »
Breach the magma from the side with a fortification.

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Arizona bill requires that teachers follow national broadcasting standards in public and personal life.

Oh wow. What the fuck were they thinking?

At least it will never actually happen and it's unenforceable on constitutional grounds. Still, it's a travesty that these jackasses even thought it was a good idea.

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Anti-vampire fortress setup
« on: February 15, 2012, 01:34:59 pm »
So, besides scrutinizing and investigating every single dwarf's background like a CIA recruiter or happening to catch them in the act, there is no reliable way of countering the vampire threat?

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Magma sea shenanigans
« on: February 15, 2012, 12:45:04 pm »
You can bring the magma a little closer to the surface by setting the world gen parameters for only 1 or 2 cavern levels. Might want to change the other parameters dealing with the space in between layers and the surface if you do that, though.

Perhaps it'd be safer to dig a room above the magma and then collapse a floor on it to breach it, rather then ordering it channeled?

I've always carved a fortification into the side of the magma into a series of tubes under my planned magma foundry. I just put stairs going up right next to where I breach the lava to to provide a quick escape for the engraver scraping out the fortification. I don't know if the engraver would survive in the new version yet.

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No, most are diesel electric. There are a few electric passenger lines, but 99.9% of all train traffic is long distance freight.

Herp derp, yeah, you're right. I was just thinking of all the local electric passenger trains, which are powered with a third rail that brings power from what I assume are local coal plants (since I think coal is still the leading source of power in the US? Might be wrong there too)

Anyways, switch to electric from steam wasn't made for efficiency reasons so much as safety and maintenance reasons, if I remember correctly. (Steam engines were still more efficient than electric when they switched everything over, at which point steam development for trains obviously started lagging behind since no one cared)

There is very little of this in the US, compared to Europe. The distances in the US are vast and passenger trains are far less common then freight hauling, if somebody wants to take mass transportation to another city they'll take a Greyhound. So that's all dependent on petroleum too.

One thing about reaching 8-10$/gal the US is that's about the price where coal liquefaction, through the Fischer–Tropsch process starts to become cost-effective. The US has a lot of coal, including the lignite type that is economical for coal liquefaction but less so for conventional uses for coal.

So in a sense, we might very well be fueling everything with coal sometime in the future.

Also, I'd agree that the taxes on gasoline are too low. It's taxed very little and the proceeds from that fund road and bridge infrastructure, which is in dire need of overhaul as of late.

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DF Adventure Mode Discussion / Re: Accuse of being a night creature
« on: February 15, 2012, 11:40:27 am »
Perhaps you have to have "proof" that he's a fraud? Reading the books in necromancer towers and perhaps just asking around in town or something?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 15, 2012, 11:24:12 am »
I just got a revolver called the Pale Rider in RE: Revelations. The revolver must have a 16 inch barrel. It looks so ridiculous. It doesn't even make sense. No supports or anything. Who thought that was a good idea for a weapon!?

They make revolvers like that, the Colt Buntline is one. The idea is to attach a stock to it, but they are intentionally rather silly.

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