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Quote from: jaxler on November 18, 2011, 09:44:35 pm

Quote from: Sphalerite on November 18, 2011, 04:32:26 pm

Density is determined by more than atomic weight.  The atom-to-atom spacing also matters.  Iridium and Osmium both have higher bulk densities than Bismuth (about 22.6 g/cc for Iridium, 22.5 g/cc for Osmium, versus 9.80 g/cc for Bismuth) because their atoms are more tightly packed.

but im saying given enough presure (just below that required to cause fusion) you could get the atoms them selfs to move closer and thus causing increesed density.

That's really completely irrelevant.  At standard pressure and temperature, there are many elements more dense than bismuth.  You could compress bismuth to be more dense than osmium is at standard pressure, but if you compressed osmium with the same pressure, it would be denser than bismuth.  And the moment you released the pressure, they'd both go back to their normal density.

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and i never said that bismith was the most dense i said it was the heaviest.

Actually, you said that a 1cmx1cmx1cm cube of bismuth would be heavier than one of silver or any other element, which is incorrect.  You then went back and edited your post to mention atom count after it was pointed out that you were wrong.  Of course, a 1cmx1cmx1cm cube of bismuth will contain far fewer atoms than a 1cmx1cmx1cm cube of silver, which is why silver has a higher density than bismuth despite bismuth having a higher atomic mass.

It is Dwarfy to sell humans and elves things made into other things, of course, but what is Dwarfier? Selling a priceless bar of adamantium to the humans for it's actual worth, where they will take it home and make it into weapons or armour, or carving a few hundred lumps of stone, and convincing the surface dwellers to buy the 18th barrel full of limestone toy boats, that would just clutter up the fortress anyway?


Also, how'd you kill the clown's? I've always had trouble with that.

Trading adamantine for beer is quite dwarfy thank you.

I give the humans lovely adamantine figurines of elves being slaughtered in exchange for vastly ridiculous quantities of alcohol.

Blue wounds mean that function of that body part is impaired without the integrity of the body part being damaged. For instance, blue eyes would mean the creature can't see, but its eyes are still there. Your soldiers will probably have trouble breathing due to the disabled lung, which may heal eventually. The kidney I don't believe will penalize them at all.

Extract on the ground is usually nasty. Flood the area with magma to clear it, or water to push it away (magma is more efficient and safer).

Colonizing the depths involves building a staircase down there and constructing stuff.

The other candy canes are safe; the horde only spawns when you first reveal a part of the depths, so any others that you might choose to dig out will not be as dangerous. Occasionally, clowns will spawn in small groups from the map edges, but only one group at a time, and they won't be nearly as aggressive as the ones you've already faced.

King DZA pretty much answered the second one. Yes, adamantine axes are incredibly good (and the sharpest you can get, but don't waste them on woodcutting) - for best effect, make sure you created them with a legendary weaponsmith. Adamantine crossbows are good only if you want your Captain of the Guard to wield a crossbow so he won't brain one of your dwarves. Adamantine is worthless in bashing weapons - you might as well be using Styrofoam. Adamantine is best used in swords, axes, and armor.