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Urist Fishspikes, Baron of the Hauling Silver had an idea. The Queen had been slain in the battle of the clashing volcanoes, an heir had to be selected. He checked the lineage... There was an heir in some forlorn outpost far away. Someone unheard of, Tirist Unalablel.
'Gentledwarves and ladies, I am saddened to announce the death of our monarch! The queen is dead, long live Queen Tirist!'
'Where is Queen Tirist?' The mayor asked.
'Attending to important resource management in one of our outposts. I shall rule in her stead.'

There are similar problems happening in adventure mode in this version, including docile Titans, friendly night trolls, and zombies that attack their own masters. This is all likely part of the same issue.

Quote from: IndigoFenix on July 10, 2014, 05:18:28 am

Maybe it feels like it's doing your dwarves a kindness by 'releasing' them from the hellish fortress life.

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Maybe it's just me, but attempts to play in adventure mode seem at best surrealistic.  Maybe I'm "doing it wrong".  A typical fight goes like this:

Sneak up to a herd of boars, staying just beyond their sight.  That's kind of OK, but then...

Walk around until you find a pebble to pick up.  The pebbles have NOTHING to do with the pattern of rock, boulders, etc. you see on the surface.

Pick up a pebble.  Because you have an axe and a dagger or shield in your two hands, you can't pick them up to do anything with, so you automatically pick them up to your backpack.  Continue picking up pebbles until you are weighed down too much to continue.  Then remove all pebbles one by one from your backpack into your hands.  Now sit around and knap all these pebbles into sharp rocks.  Then throw them one by one at the boars until they're all gone (being careful, because throwing the pebbles actually does take time unlike everything else).  Repeat over and over until they're somewhat injured and you're very bored (and a Talented Thrower/Archer/Knapper) and you want to take your chances with the axe.

for the love of Armok, Toady, have you ever played Nethack?  They set a sensible precedent of not actually bothering you about every single thing your hands do; at the same time you don't _really_ have 20 things in your hands at the same time if it actually matters.

Now stay on a different z-level from the boars so they don't see you but you see them, and try to hit them by surprise with the axe.  The axe gets stuck in the wound.  There's no obvious way to do any _damage_ to a boar with the axe that you have firmly stuck in its wound unless you try to pull away, but meanwhile you can get your dagger stuck.  Then, you can bite it in the eye and get a tooth stuck in its eye.  Then bite it in the other eye and get another tooth stuck in the other eye.  Then bite it in the neck and get another tooth stuck in its neck.  Etcetera.  You have a lot of prehensile teeth to play around with, pity they can't actually kill anything.  Eventually you either rummage about in your backpack while keeping all your respective weapons firmly in hand, and pull out something else to cut its throat with, or else you just back off and try over again from scratch (recommended method).

Then you're left with all this crap from butchering a herd of boars.  But you don't know what it's worth, and you'll never know, because you don't even have appraising skill on your list.  But you can sweat and groan and pull it out to some shop where you can barter it for... some other kind of meat that also weighs a ton.  Maybe that's more plausible, but...

Consider it a Myst opportunity.

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Pun shamelessly stolen from Myst V.