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Other Games / Re: Dwarven Invaders - A social experiment based on Minecraft
« on: February 06, 2012, 05:34:48 pm »
So it seems they've declaimed the farm (or wherever our new spawn was). What now? Is it time to abandon the fort and find a new embark? Or do we somehow soldier on?

Yeah, I think we need a new fort. We can't fight like this.

We'll gather everything we can and march farther north. I can think of some places, anyway.

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Other Games / Re: Dwarven Invaders - A social experiment based on Minecraft
« on: February 06, 2012, 05:28:15 pm »
One problem: They declaimed a chunk of our stuff because some IDIOT dorf let them in through the front door and didn't lava it off like they should have (I was getting diamonds from the vault at the time), we got killed repeatedly, and our power went to shit

So, protip for the future: getting killed loses us power, which loses us land. If they have our spawn trapped, etc wait it out don't just charge all willy nilly

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Other Games / Re: Dwarven Invaders - A social experiment based on Minecraft
« on: February 06, 2012, 05:18:17 pm »
Why the hell did you let them in seriously wtf

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: February 06, 2012, 04:31:52 pm »
Any other suggestions?
In general yes, but I've seen none of those, so no.
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They're somewhat obscure. Still, quite good and worth looking into

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You might enjoy Dennou Coil.

Yay, Madhouse!

Thanks, watching this soon :D

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: February 06, 2012, 04:26:22 pm »
I officially need to take a break from politics.

I woke up this morning having a lucid dream about hosting a cable "news" show, being lumbered with moderating a couple talking heads bashing/praising Obama, while I played with an interactive map of the Keystone Pipeline.  Interestingly enough, the pro-Obama person was a bit more ethnic than usual.  Then it turned into The Boondocks.

Anyway.

I was busy all weekend, and didn't even notice the Nevada primary came and went.  Apparently nobody here did either.  I hear they had some crazy counting fuckup and took like two days to produce an official result, but that's nothing new.  The more interesting point might be that Romney won with an exact 50.1% majority, but still actually counted something like fifteen thousand less votes than he did four years ago, in an election that saw 20% less turnout altogether.  That sounds significant to me.

I'll get around to updating the OP sooner or later.

It was absolutely silly. They took well over 24 hours to finish the count, had to recount three times, there were shenanigans regarding the counting, and its looking like a state-wide recount is inbound because of problems in Washoe.

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Other Games / Re: Dwarven Invaders - A social experiment based on Minecraft
« on: February 06, 2012, 03:42:08 pm »
Presently, I don't see how they got in, but they're camping where our old spawn was.

I reset it underground presently. We just have to wait until they leave, then we have to figure out how they got in and deal with it. I suspect some idiot connected the lighthouse caverns with the main caverns.
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Their is one dwarfy solution to all this:

We dig a dry moat around the entire mountain down to the bedrock. and build a system for us to leave and enter via a one way system, using /f home to get in.

Huh, you know, that isn't a bad idea. Time consuming, but it might work...

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Other Games / Re: Dwarven Invaders - A social experiment based on Minecraft
« on: February 06, 2012, 03:27:43 pm »
they're from "RANGERS"

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Other Games / Re: Dwarven Invaders - A social experiment based on Minecraft
« on: February 06, 2012, 03:09:09 pm »
Strip mining netherrack is an odd way to make money but it seems to be the fastest way besides voting. Got more diamonds in a short space of time than in two days searching the caverns and digging mines. It breaks so quickly I could barely notice the difference in speed between iron and stone picks.

If we were worried about being attacked while mining we could always claim and fortify at the surface. Then we'd just have to make sure not to dig outside of the claim and nobody could get in.

I'll be mostly inactive until next weekend as I've got work. It's a short working week but I do long hours.
There is no difference, the celing for how fast it breaks is at stone, not diamond. If you want to use more expensive picks purely for their longevity, feel free to. But iron, diamond, or gold pickaxes don't mine netherrack any faster than their stone counterpart. Wooden picks still suck, by the way.

Stone is cheaper, so just bring 20 stone pickaxes with you.

EDIT: WTF there are random people in our base attacking

that doesn't make any sense the routes in should all be closed ><

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: February 05, 2012, 03:54:49 pm »
-snip-

Uh, yeah, Santorum isn't on the ballot in a bunch of states because you have to "register" in each individual state. These states include:

Virginia
Tennessee
Rhode Island
and possibly more that I can't remember.

I find it highly unlikely Santorum will be surging anywhere without being on the ballot.

He's not on the ballot in Tennessee?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/30/bachmann-santorum-have-no-delegates-on-tennessee-primary-ballot/

So strictly speaking he is, but he has no delegates

Nice we don't have him or Bachmann, but we have no delegates for Buddy Roemer?

Probably won't end up mattering too much in the long run, though. Tennessee has never been much of a swing state.

It's the thought that counts, and its the sort of state that Santorum would have to win were he in a position to beat Romney.

Anyhow, I know there are other states Santorum is either not on the ballot for or doesn't have enough delegates. I think he wasn't able to get on the Indiana and Arizona ballots either, but don't quote me on that. If you want, I can go check for ballot access.

But frankly, Santorum isn't a serious threat to Romney. Gingrich had a casino mogul backing him and a resounding win in the state that's said to always determine the Republican victor; Santorum had an extremely lacklustre victory in a state he practically lived in for the past year, followed by getting crushed in the next state and performing so-so in the next two. If the current Nevada/Clark County results are anything to go by, he's going to end up with 10% or less in Nevada, and the next states aren't exactly Santorum friendly (again, barring Missouri and possibly Minnesota).

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: February 05, 2012, 11:42:49 am »
-snip-

Uh, yeah, Santorum isn't on the ballot in a bunch of states because you have to "register" in each individual state. These states include:

Virginia
Tennessee
Rhode Island
and possibly more that I can't remember.

I find it highly unlikely Santorum will be surging anywhere without being on the ballot.

He's not on the ballot in Tennessee?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/30/bachmann-santorum-have-no-delegates-on-tennessee-primary-ballot/

So strictly speaking he is, but he has no delegates

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: February 05, 2012, 10:37:47 am »
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Nevada primer.
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The Republican nominating train is in new terrain: the West. Saturday’s caucus in Nevada will unfold against mountains and deserts, a far different backdrop from the first four states.

But do not be fooled by the scenery. Where elections are concerned, Nevada is an urbanized state. Most Nevadans live in cities, and that holds true for Republicans and for Republican caucusgoers. In the state’s 2008 Republican caucus, exit polls found just over half of voters were from urban communities, and another quarter was from the suburbs.
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The dire economy may help explain the fractured support of Nevada’s Tea Party, which has been one of the more active Tea Party groups in the country, but cannot seem to agree on a standard-bearer in the presidential campaign. Rick Santorum won the endorsement of Sharron Angle, a senatorial candidate backed by the Tea Party, but it might be too little too late. A poll commissioned by the Las Vegas Review-Journal found Tea Party support was split, with 37 percent going to Newt Gingrich, 27 percent to Mr. Romney and 20 to Mr. Santorum.

Another important voting bloc, as has been widely noted, are Mormons. Twenty-six percent of 2008 Republican caucusgoers were Mormon, and Mr. Romney won 95 percent of their votes. Mr. Paul, however, has been trying to make inroads into that support. His focus on the Constitution is a natural fit for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which considers the document to be divinely inspired. And Mormonism has a history of conflict with the federal government.

In 2008, there was also a substantial share of caucusgoers — 8 percent — who were Hispanic. While a majority of Florida’s Hispanics are of Cuban descent, Nevada’s Hispanics are mostly of Mexican origin. Mr. Gingrich and Mr. Paul have reportedly courted this group’s support more than Mr. Romney and Mr. Santorum.
Should make for some interesting reading. And viewing if anyone lets Sharron Angle near a TV camera.

538 vote projections.

On the less factual side of things there have been some polls and rumours that make for fun speculation. One poll shows Santorum beating Obama in the general (lol). Now this is a Rasmussen poll and they have had horrible problems in the past, and this seems to mostly be people remaining mostly ignorant about Santorum given his (very) brief time in the spotlight, but for a few days it makes him the most electable candidate. He might be able to ride that out of a bad beat in Nevada.

Meanwhile Newt is holding a press conference immediately after the results come in. Not a speech, a press conference. Some have take this to mean he might drop out.

Combine these two and you have a fantasy situation where Newt throws his weight behind Santorum and the two run hard against Romney. At least one punter got some money down on a Santorum presidency today. I'd have taken the 140/1 as a value bet, but 66/1 sounds a bit generous to Santorums general electability. That said, today I'd take those as the odds for him getting the Republican nod.

Doubtful. Romney is going to win the nomination easily barring something incredible.

The upcoming caucuses are all very much states that Santorum will get crushed in, barring Missouri and maybe Minnesota. His strongest states are rust belt states, and those are basically sealed in favour of Romney.

He isn't even on the ballot in a lot of states.

Wha? He's a Republican candidate. At last check, he was on the ballot in every state (at least so far). Also, I think Santorum would have a natural constituency in the South, especially if Gingrich dips out. I agree that Romney probably has this in the bag, but the rest of your post is just flat what.



EDIT: Oh yeah, the results. Romney 0wnzors in Nevada. Looking like 50%+ at this point, Gingrich in the low 20s, Paul in the mid-high teens, and Santorum picking up the trash.

Uh, yeah, Santorum isn't on the ballot in a bunch of states because you have to "register" in each individual state. These states include:

Virginia
Tennessee
Rhode Island
and possibly more that I can't remember.

I find it highly unlikely Santorum will be surging anywhere without being on the ballot.

Anyhow, on my last check, the upcoming states are:

-Maine, a state even less friendly than New Hampshire where he came 10% in
-Colorado, a safe Romney state
-Minnesota, a state that has its evangelicals but has even more non-religious sorts who would go either Romney or Paul
-Missouri, Santorum's best chance at winning something, but sufficiently southern that his chance at actually winning the state depends more on what Gingrich does than his own merit.

Seeing as how elections rely upon momentum, I don't think a flurry of unfriendly states followed by a bunch of states you literally get no votes from will benefit him in the slightest.

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Other Games / Re: Dwarven Invaders - A social experiment based on Minecraft
« on: February 05, 2012, 10:21:59 am »
I recall saying earlier that an IRC would be great.

Presently, we have another problem too. Specifically, raiding is a hassle. Our base is located two oceans away from any enemies with active members, so any raiding expedition would require a good half hour to even reach a target, and with no food, equipment, etc that we didn't bring with us. This is, frankly, annoying.

However, yesterday we came up with a solution; a forward base/non-dorf faction. This faction would be created by a trusted dorf for the purpose of raiding, and it would be located much closer to spawn (I know there was a mountain range on the way to spawn behind the second ocean, that would probably be ideal). We would supply it with the basic materials needed to get it going before making it "official", and might possibly make a separate "hidden" chest for actual dorf raiders only. The brave commander of this raiding/teleportation/training faction would then work on claiming some land (not too much early on, otherwise it could be declaimed just as easily) and building a proper base. Once complete, the faction will begin recruiting. There are several purposes this faction will have:

(1) This faction will allow us to recruit non-b12ers without having to actually let them into our fortress. DrPoo is adamant that no non-b12ers be allowed in whatsoever, which is fine by me (its not an issue I care much about presently), but it could have the pretense (or, in time, actually be) of a training camp to ensure their loyalty. Our faction is presently probably the largest on the server, and there are random peeps trying to join. With this "training camp", we have an easy source of cannon fodder and labour. Including the random chumps that ask for recruitment by saying stuff like "Good archer!", it could alone make bigger factions like Warriors think twice before declaring war on us.

(2) This faction will allow us to properly raid when needed. We don't have /sethome, we can't use /warp unless we join their forums and become "regulars" (Ank says only one Dorf need get it to set the warps, and then the rest can use it; if this is the case, we can use warps to augment the raiding brigade faction and slowly loosen our control over it). So instead, we simply switch factions when we need to launch a raid. As such:
-Dorfs A-C want to raid Punk Faction A, but PFA is located far, far away. Dorfs A-C leave the main faction.
-Raid Leader A, an admin or mod in the Raid Faction, invites Dorfs A-C to join, which can be coordinated by alliance chat or by the /msg function.
-Having switched factions, Dorfs A-C augment whatever supplies they brought with native supplies and possibly get reinforcements from pseudo-Dorfs. RLA can request supplies if the raider base is short of them, which the Dorfs can retrieve from our supply chests.
-Dorfs A-C go raiding, get us loot, claim land, kill dudes, etc and are happy. They leave the raider faction and are invited back to the main faction to bring back loot.
-???
-PROFIT

(3) Gathering resources. This one's fairly simple. Our main base is rich enough, but it could use extra resources, especially for the purpose of buying more diamonds (which we'll desperately need if we're to put up a proper fight against other factions). Any "excess" (read: non-essential) resources from the second faction can be transferred to the main one at regular intervals.

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The only thing we need for this is a volunteer. They must be willing to abandon the main fort (at least until theirs is set up) and establish their own without our help. They must then be on regularly to recruit members, transfer members, and upgrade the fort. Anyone?

Oh, and we need to have a proper election for the mayor/admin job too.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: February 04, 2012, 06:39:34 pm »
Nevada primer.
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The Republican nominating train is in new terrain: the West. Saturday’s caucus in Nevada will unfold against mountains and deserts, a far different backdrop from the first four states.

But do not be fooled by the scenery. Where elections are concerned, Nevada is an urbanized state. Most Nevadans live in cities, and that holds true for Republicans and for Republican caucusgoers. In the state’s 2008 Republican caucus, exit polls found just over half of voters were from urban communities, and another quarter was from the suburbs.
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The dire economy may help explain the fractured support of Nevada’s Tea Party, which has been one of the more active Tea Party groups in the country, but cannot seem to agree on a standard-bearer in the presidential campaign. Rick Santorum won the endorsement of Sharron Angle, a senatorial candidate backed by the Tea Party, but it might be too little too late. A poll commissioned by the Las Vegas Review-Journal found Tea Party support was split, with 37 percent going to Newt Gingrich, 27 percent to Mr. Romney and 20 to Mr. Santorum.

Another important voting bloc, as has been widely noted, are Mormons. Twenty-six percent of 2008 Republican caucusgoers were Mormon, and Mr. Romney won 95 percent of their votes. Mr. Paul, however, has been trying to make inroads into that support. His focus on the Constitution is a natural fit for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which considers the document to be divinely inspired. And Mormonism has a history of conflict with the federal government.

In 2008, there was also a substantial share of caucusgoers — 8 percent — who were Hispanic. While a majority of Florida’s Hispanics are of Cuban descent, Nevada’s Hispanics are mostly of Mexican origin. Mr. Gingrich and Mr. Paul have reportedly courted this group’s support more than Mr. Romney and Mr. Santorum.
Should make for some interesting reading. And viewing if anyone lets Sharron Angle near a TV camera.

538 vote projections.

On the less factual side of things there have been some polls and rumours that make for fun speculation. One poll shows Santorum beating Obama in the general (lol). Now this is a Rasmussen poll and they have had horrible problems in the past, and this seems to mostly be people remaining mostly ignorant about Santorum given his (very) brief time in the spotlight, but for a few days it makes him the most electable candidate. He might be able to ride that out of a bad beat in Nevada.

Meanwhile Newt is holding a press conference immediately after the results come in. Not a speech, a press conference. Some have take this to mean he might drop out.

Combine these two and you have a fantasy situation where Newt throws his weight behind Santorum and the two run hard against Romney. At least one punter got some money down on a Santorum presidency today. I'd have taken the 140/1 as a value bet, but 66/1 sounds a bit generous to Santorums general electability. That said, today I'd take those as the odds for him getting the Republican nod.

Doubtful. Romney is going to win the nomination easily barring something incredible.

The upcoming caucuses are all very much states that Santorum will get crushed in, barring Missouri and maybe Minnesota. His strongest states are rust belt states, and those are basically sealed in favour of Romney.

He isn't even on the ballot in a lot of states.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: February 04, 2012, 04:28:42 pm »
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You parenthetically provided the exact reason why a lot of people would consider it a good thing for the Supreme Court to "create rights out of thin air".  You're right, the Constitution does not mention any Federal power over abortion.  So what did the Supreme Court say?  That the Federal government therefore cannot wholesale restrict access to abortion without an amendment, and by the extension power of the 14th amendment (which does exist whether you like it or not), neither can states.

In the history of the Supreme Court, whether for good or ill, when presented with a question of whether a "right" exists they have almost always erred on the side of saying it does until proven otherwise, by further discovery or by an amendment.  In this way, it basically keeps both the Federal government and the states from making up on their own what counts as "Constitutional" or not without actually changing the Constitution, a process which as your example points out, can take decades.

It's a position that holds that it's better that a right be assumed to exist until it's legitimately restricted, rather than saying a right does not exist until enumerated.  And I would think minarchists would appreciate that position.

Slippery slope. The Supreme Court is unelected, and thus isn't bound by many of the same restrictions that the legislative and executive branches are. Those two are bound to have to act slowly and are replaced if they do something silly, with the same applying to their statewide counterparts. The SC is far less accountable, and by all means can change far more things than they are intended to. Once the door is opened on the SC unilaterally making laws, it can just as easily make terrible laws and seriously overstep its boundaries.

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Other Games / Re: Dwarven Invaders - A social experiment based on Minecraft
« on: February 04, 2012, 03:56:00 pm »
Apologies for being away for a while, I was a bit busy.

A raid would be good, but the nearest factions are all apparently composed of maybe 3 inactive people each. If my (very long and arduous) voyage is of any indication, the nearest faction with actual people in it is maybe 30 minutes south if we all have multiple boats. I tried to set up a nether portal to allow us to make more efficient raids, but NPs are disabled and /sethome is too.

So we'll have to be very much prepared when we go, since going back home immediately won't be an option. Thus, we'll only have the weapons/armor/etc we bring with us. We also need a proper target, so someone should scout and find the coords of an active faction to crush.

A cannon emplacement on the floating island would be great, but exploding TNT is disabled (as I discovered annoyingly not too long ago).

Besides that, would anyone object if I mined out a second set of stairs down to make my own room and then maybe a quarry? I probably wouldn't get it done in one go, but quarries are useful in my experience (our present mineshafts are very long and unwieldy IMO).

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