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How exactly would this help? The only way toys can give happy thoughts is if a dwarf buys one ("He made a satisfying acquisition lately."), and that doesn't happen unless the Economy is active (which doesn't happen anymore in version 0.31.xx).

Incidentally, can anything else cause this thought?  I had a dwarf with this thought recently and I was under the same impression that it wasn't possible in the current version.

Well I had a dwarven baby that was miserable after a parent died and after making some toys he was happy.  I know the economy isn't working, but I fiigured that helped.  So the smooth stones doesn't work in workshops huh?  It seems to work in the dining hall as reports say the dining hall is magnificient or something to that effect.  I know about assigning dwarves rooms but it takes time to excavate and that's in process, which is why I smoothed the dorm while I'm creating rooms and assigning the angriest dwarves (and nobles) rooms first.

Smoothing and engraving the dining hall would definitely increase its value, since you're designating it as a room from one of the tables.  Workshops are different in that you don't designate a room for them and thus the smooth walls don't get factored into the value of any room.  Now, I'm fairly sure that engraving such a wall will still give a happy thought if a dwarf happens to wander by, it's just less likely to happen than in say the dining hall.

I'll also second that decent personal quarters and a nice dining hall are pretty much all you need to keep the dwarves happy.  Each of my dwarves has a 2x3 smoothed bedroom with a bed, chest and cabinet.  I believe the tutorial I followed to get into this habit was written while the economy was still active and such containers actually made a difference, but it seems to keep them happy.  Constructing 3 pieces of furniture, a door and digging out a room for each migrant doesn't take all that much time really.

The dining hall is filled with enough tables and chairs that I don't see any bad thoughts about crowding or lack of chairs, and I smooth the entire room.  I engrave all of the walls except one, which I reserve for future expansion of the dining hall (mining through a master work engraving will tick off whoever engraved it).  When I get a chance, I throw in some statues to increase the value of the room some more.

Interestingly, my dwarves don't seem to make many friends, even though many of them do hang out in the dining hall.  I suspect the large size of the dining hall keeps them from socializing too much.  Thus even though 99% of my dwarves stay at ecstatic, even if a few started tantruming it would likely be contained with little effort.

Guess the capybara got a critical hit.  Kind of like the story I read of some adventurer getting bitten in half by an elf child.  Or the dwarf biting off a bronze colossus' leg.

I'm a bit more scared to let my dwarves hunt now though.  They've been bringing in the capybara meat for years now (without a single injury I'm aware of).  Guess I'm just a few lucky hits away from dead dwarves and a tantrum spiral.

holy crap...

did you carve/cast that yourself?

My guess is that it's a model from Warhammer Fantasy Battles, but it's masterfully painted, nonetheless.  My Warhammer 40K minis are disgusting to look at.

Not personally, but I'm pretty sure either Boatmurdered or Battlefailed had numerous goblins with the same names in one of their sieges.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were half a dozen Urists in a fort.

Ahahahaha. I was raised in the deep country. Nothing nerdy there.
Your nerdfu must be cultivated yourself.

I was raised in the deep country myself, but my dad happened to be proficient at cobbling together fascinating machines out of scrap and elbow grease.  He made some of the most amazing stuff out of junk and I guess it inspired me as a kid.  I originally wanted to be a mechanic or something like that because I watched him fix and build things, but then computers caught my eye.  It's all history from there.

A good example of the sort of stuff he'd make was a ring roller / cutter.  When he found out that I was interested in making chain mail and showed him how it was done / how tedious it was, he took some scrap metal, an old motor, and a some metal machining tools and made a contraption that would wind and cut wire into rings, ready for use.  Awesome.  I couldn't help but grow up liking to tinker.  That and he led me into other interests like roleplaying in that he used to take part in civil war reenactments.  Perhaps a bit more mainstream, but it's the same thing under the hood.

Can't say for sure, but in the two forts I've run so far, I never got any sieges until year 4, so maybe they just haven't showed up yet.  Are there any goblin civilizations on your civs menu?  Maybe they're extinct (I assume this is possible like other civs).

Interestingly, my feelings and reactions to this seem to vary considerably.

In other games, sometimes I like to torture the player character.  In Mario 64 for example, I would spend hours finding the highest places I could launch Mario from to see what would happen when he impacted on the ground.  In Mario Sunshine, there wasn't much that was funnier than stepping in lava.  In Ocarina of Time, I'd do similar things to Link because his screams were just so dang epic.

I don't like to harm innocents in these games though, even if it's all for fun.  I can barely make myself do something like shoot an innocent bystander in Deus Ex, or even attack (non hostile) wildlife in a game like Everquest.  It just doesn't sit right with me, even if the results can be a bit funny and I'm planning on savescumming after the fact.

Dwarf Fortress is strange in this respect.  I found it hilarious when my armor smith had a failed mood, snapped and bit the feet off of a nearby wolf pup before a peasant walked by and kicked her skull in.  On the other hand, when I lost a single soldier in a siege, I actually felt bad.  Like I let my people down.  Like there was something I could have done to prevent her from getting a sword jabbed through her head, causing her to suffocate.

In general I play Dwarf Fortress with the intention of doing everything I can for my dwarves.  They all get their own bedrooms, have a nice decor, are protected from the foul goblins, and so on.  Only when they have failed moods do they get unhappy and cause trouble.  And I find that funny, whereas a dwarf getting killed in combat is a tragedy.  I wonder why that is...

It doesn't help that I'm planning on setting up my first magma pump stack soon.  And if half of my fortress melts from !!fun!!, well, that is probably going to be funny.  Odd, that.

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