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"Only wounds. I wouldn't recommend jumping in there."

Pass.

i just want to point out that CNN is pathetic.

read that article. read that article and tell me CNN would've written that a year ago.

"WAIT. WHAT?"

not defending sean spicer (although i think everyone, including the don, was having fun with the typo) but seriously guys. write like you aren't still in middle school.

"Sorry, I never got your name. What was it?"

"Uto. Uto Fiske. Pleasure to meet you."

Uto would follow Engrad to the disgusting icky sewers.

So it's unfair to assume that armed alt-right militias are going to cause trouble, but it's totes okay to assume that antifa is? Just trying to set the ground rules here.

Showing up and *not* beating the shit out of people is called "peaceful assembly". Ironically, it's the same right that some people are screaming needs to be defended with armed militias.

i'm not assuming that "armed" "alt-right" militias (they wouldn't be armed in a city like portland, and they're just kooks, not alt-right) won't cause trouble, i'm assuming they'll cause less trouble on a defensive footing than antifa on an offensive footing. and i'm also arguing that all the antifa types have done is radicalized the not-alt right even more. cat's out of the bag now, though.

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you realize these guys have shown up to events across the country, right? from auburn and nawlins to portland, from new york and boston to anaheim?

sure, they're not beating the shit out of people yet, but it's a matter of time. the cats out of the bag now, thanks to the communist ninjas. 2018 and 2020 are going to be fun, get the popcorn.

That sounds like pure Conservative Republican crack smoking paranoid bullshit. Yeah, the street are going to be overrun with antifa guys with bandanas on their faces, smashing things killing people and screaming about fascism.

Next thing you're going to say is the race war is right around the corner, because Trayvon and all other shit is finally going to come home to roost.

People need to quit engaging their politically apocalyptic masturbation fantasies. That's how we got to Trump in the first goddamn place.

woah, okay. thanks for putting words in my mouth.

i'm not saying it's going to be the end of days, i'm saying it's going to be fun to see the kekistan larpers fight the communist ninjas for control of some shitty public park day in day out.

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when people use the phrase "punching nazis" they generally refer to doing this. anyone who unironically talks about "punching nazis" instantly earns my ire, especially when you consider the huge amount of influence these groups have gained just by being punched.

What should be particularly worrisome about supposedly "anti-fascist" terrorists like this is that not only do they approve of "punching" (often actually assault with a deadly weapon) "Nazis," but their definition of "Nazi" is as fluid as a Usenet poster's.  It is essentially anyone who disagrees with them in any way.

I'm googling it and I literally cannot turn up a single person killed by Antifa?  Like typing things like "antifa killing" "killed by antifa" or "killed by anti-fascist" is literally just turning up antifascist people who were killed by neo-nazies... in other countries.  Hell, I looked up "list of antifa attacks" and I got... Berkley.  It wasn't even a list, it was just that.

Which is funny because I can find at least one person who was killed by a neonazi in America since 2017.

"assault with a deadly weapon" is not "murder."

as someone who lives in berkeley, I can list a shitload of instances of antifa morons assaulting people with a deadly weapon, i.e. Eric Clanton bike-locking three people, all of them non-violent, at the April 15th rally, or someone who still hasn't been fucking caught hitting a prone man over the head with a shovel. If you think this isn't a fucking problem...if you think that two lone wolf stabbings by mental cases are worse than a nationwide trend of political violence...I don't think I can help here. It's despicable the kind of damage alt-right types do, but trying to deflect using that is cowardly.

And SalmonGod, I'm not going to bother going back to find the specific quote, but look at some of the links I posted earlier. This one or this one or hell, even this one (it's not caught in the video, but the unconscious guy was hit over the head with a shovel.) All this does, all this has done, is exactly what you seem so shocked by with the militias in Portland. Do you expect these people not to protect their events when violent "protestors" attack them? You're all worried about the evul fash overtones of this, but what did you expect? If the evil Nazis are the only people who can provide security, then they'll be the ones doing it.

I'm going to add a final note here: Remember the Milo talk when the university kicked him out and kept his security payment? That's why you want security that agrees with you, and isn't just going to stand by and watch.

Going back further again: when people user the phrase "punching nazis" it generally refers to either Captain America punching them in WW2 or Captain Awesome Randomdude punching Richard Spencer recently, when you associate with alt-right shitbags you lose your "make nazi-like suggestions jokingly" rights, sorry, we need to be able to identify when people are actually pushing for those ideas because those groups are the ones trying to push just those sorts of ideas onto the political stage.

when people use the phrase "punching nazis" they generally refer to doing this. anyone who unironically talks about "punching nazis" instantly earns my ire, especially when you consider the huge amount of influence these groups have gained just by being punched.

i  mean, hell. if it would stop the rise of white nationalism and nazism, i'd be all for it, but attacking randoms who got pulled in by the memes doesn't do anything.

jesus I got mobbed.

why are you guys assuming that these guys would be bringing ar-15s? in Portland?

seriously, oathkeepers have run security at events like this before, and they don't bring guns. you're all just having hysterics because brownshirts.

Well what else would you call hiring paramilitaries - who have engaged in political violence - to police your political events?

Security?

I mean, hell, compared to the alternatives the Oathkeepers don't seem that bad. Not like they're going to mow down a crowd in downtown Portland.

You could call it criminally batshit insane, but fascist is easier to spell, less letters.

What's criminally batshit insane is telling people "Hey, you should just let those guys beat up your supporters. No, no, don't fight back, that's fascism."