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in genesis you can craft a crutch. dive into the 'x' menu sometime.

Quote from: bombzero on January 27, 2012, 06:11:19 pm

i might try one of these, probably the first as intentional limb loss is difficult

Haha, thanks. Well, I don't know how well it would work for sure, but you could maybe enable traps in adventure mode, build a fortress near a civ, and put some serrated disc traps there to roll adventurers, if you want intentional limb loss?

the results,death.

got a tawny eagles head though.

also im using masterwork DF atm. but i sometimes switch between that and genesis.

note: no images ATM, ill edit them into post once photobucket cooperates.

EDIT: i find photobucket very easy to use. gives you a forum ready img link!

NecroRebel: "The math involves people getting pulled down and stabbed through the joints of their armor, or had their helmets bashed in by blunt weapons. Knights didn't get stabbed through the middle of their plate armor, and even steel linked-ring armor blocked steel weapons."

small fact, a 1 inch thick steel breastplate can be speared through with a steel shortsword in real life.
also, chainmail only reduces blunt impacts, and stops slashing edged weapons irl. a stab from a weapon would go through with ease.
also, an iron two handed sword is a giant ass heavy weight that happens to be sharp. it can and will punch straight through steel armor. (with significant damage to the sword though.)

the issue is that it takes a stronger armor to STOP something, than the material of the weapon striking it.
armors have lagged behind weapons for over a thousand years.

blunt > plate armor.
sharp > chainmail. (for stabbing at least)
chainmail > blunt. (diffuses impact) BUT: a mace can still break multiple ribs through it.
plate > sword. BUT: a stab or slash from a correctly sharpened sword can slice through it.

correctly sharpened sword: a common misconception is that you want a sword to be as sharp as physically possible, that is incorrect as a super-sharp sword can't hurt thick armor.
however a sword that is ever so slightly dull, catches on whatever it hits, transferring the force of the impact into a narrow area, breaking through the armor. but it has to still be sharp enough to cut skin and muscle.

not trying to be an ass necrorebel, just helping people break away from video-game/movie/book/whatever stereotypes and move into the wonderful world of actual fact.
ill go see if i can find a few wiki articles that are an interesting read or what-not.

Quote from: Quietust on January 27, 2012, 04:02:32 pm

Quote from: Hugo_The_Dwarf on January 27, 2012, 03:58:46 pm

That is the logic

And it's wrong, at least to me. It's probably also at least partially wrong to the game, since the head, upper body, and lower body are not actually connected to one another.

Quote from: Hugo_The_Dwarf on January 27, 2012, 03:58:46 pm

THe only thing that concerns me is the Eyes not being able to find a [HEAD] BP

That's a bug in parsebody, which I've now fixed - it found [CONTYPE:HEAD] at some arbitrary point and couldn't trace all the way to the upper body, so it complained that it couldn't find a [HEAD] connection.

I wasn't in the mood to do a whole detail plan to assemble the layers on the normal BP's (armor layer over the Ice Layer etc) so I made [ARMOR] Bp's gave them a metal layer and the normal BP's inside the [ARMOR] and then skinned the internal fleshy (ice) parts. Somehow it works :/ so I can't complain

It also makes them somewhat more difficult to kill. (now that they don't melt.) screwing with this system even more, may result in enemies that cant be killed unless the upper body, lower body, and head are broken off or horribly traumatized.

So, seeing as how my original challenge failed horribly, I want anyone to suggest a challenge for adventure mode and i will do my damned best at completing it.

I will accept any idea no matter how stupid, and post the results after death.


original horribly failed idea.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on January 20, 2012, 05:19:25 pm

Really I wouldn't mind if Toady implemented body waste in some way. I also wouldn't care if he never did. I'd rather he spend his time on something actually interesting though.

I don't care either way, really but I'd much prefer he work on something more interesting.

kind of my stance on it, as a possible much later addition after things get done that are better, bugs get fixed, dwarfs are more interesting characters. THEN lets add the 'nice details'.

Quote from: bombzero on January 25, 2012, 05:01:10 pm

goonstation thing was a poke at the largest community of assholes in SS13, who singlehandedly ruined it, roughly akin to minecraft griefers.

Please check this kind of thing at the door. I'm fairly certain nobody came here to read about your dislike of some people on the internets.

i just explained my reasoning to someone who questioned why i mentioned it offhand initially. that is all. however did you not just derail the thread further by exclusively pointing out a side point of it, instead of responding to the main idea? so just drop it for the sake of the thread.

also, a small idea about this. it would be great if pipes were implemented as fluid carriers, making a functioning plumping system that didn't result in job cancellation spam when digging on the floor under it.
this way we could actually build a functioning waste disposal system, possibly dropping it into a unused cavern lake.
(can we talk about ways this can be helpfully implemented instead of just arguing IF it should be implemented.)

It looks like Toady has created a new generation of dwarf-loving folks. Some of them may dislike DF but they still like dwarves. It's awesome in any case .

It's better than the "zombie appreciation" for me (although I have a bit of that), before DF the last time I saw a bit of "dwarf appreciation" between my friends was back when we were kids and we were reading The Hobbit .

i feel you on this one Deon, the zombie fanaticism is getting a bit old.