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Quote from: Xen0n on September 20, 2011, 10:07:03 am

The other problem with necromancers is raising all the carp / badgers / gorlaks that naturally die over the map without your knowledge.

Spoiler: Derail (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Moska1167 on September 20, 2011, 09:45:50 am

The dead will walk.  Corpses must be burned.  The Long Night falls.  Brace yourselves.  Winter is coming.

Oh man, you just convinced me to hold off until the next update to do my special embark:
Cold forest biome, bring 5 wolf pups (modded to be war-trainable) and only using the starting 7.  End goal is a stone above-ground fort (with some crypts) and a 10-z high ice wall covering the northern edge of the map.

Song of Ice and Fire?

I think I saw an episode or something of that anime on scifi channel or something.  I think I caught the ending where something happens and a tidal wave washes over like the whole planet.  Or something.

Quote from: Xen0n on September 20, 2011, 03:36:51 pm

That scenario sounds absolutely delicious.  The logical extreme of self-imposed challenges and combatting overly plentiful resources.

Yeah, the idea is that "This isn't when the oil reserves have run dry.  This isn't when a religious event shakes the world.  This isn't when capitalism crumbles and Mad Max style anarchy rules.  This isn't even when an asteroid wipes out half the life on the planet.  This is 1,000,000 years after that when the atmosphere is thin and the sun is burning larger and hotter.  It's not the end of the civilized world, it's the end of the entire world."

Most of the creatures would be metal/magical, like golems, which could survive on significantly fewer resources, or hardened like an evolved rhino, or become poisonous/flammable/explosive as a defense mechanism.  Most of your armor will be cloth or leather, painstakingly picked out from scraps, but that's alright because only the biggest enemies can afford to use weapons, much less metal weapons!  Eons of atom smashing and poorly done melting of goblinite has reduce the world to useless slag.  Morality is out the window, bones are considered edible by most surviving species and blood is a frequent meal idea.  If it's usable, you'd better use it, or else someone will kill you and use it, and use you.

In a nutshell, Scarcity to the furthest extreme.

Quote from: Varnifane on September 20, 2011, 03:59:20 pm

Can you mod in madness?

No.

Quote from: Girlinhat on September 20, 2011, 03:36:02 pm

You can't mod in moods as it stands.

Can you mod in madness?

Quote from: Xen0n on September 20, 2011, 03:36:51 pm

Quote from: Varnifane on September 20, 2011, 03:28:13 pm

I have been thinking about a daycare/cotton candy machine (sacrificial altar) where you drop your kids off and they give you cotton candy.

Only once you start you can't stop. It will double the chance of getting strange moods, but half of the strange moods you receive results in dwarves going to the altar instead. If you deconstruct/block the altar effect remains so the dwarves go mad and you will have nothing to show for it.

I like this idea for no other reason than the euphemism, "Oh, I'm just dropping the kids off at the vending machine to pick up some cotton candy."  And it's not even a poop joke!

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Instead it's about murdering children for profit.

Quote from: Peter Griffin

Oh, I thought you wanted to kill the kids and sell their organs for beer money.

Quote from: Xen0n on September 20, 2011, 03:22:33 pm

Quote from: San-A on September 20, 2011, 03:01:53 pm

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Quote from: Xen0n on September 20, 2011, 01:28:46 pm

Quote from: San-A on September 20, 2011, 01:19:07 pm

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If you become fed up with owned items (since it can be a real pain), you can always cheat and use DFHack to confiscate/dump/delete them (Also came with Lazy Newb Pack)

Which tool of the DFhack can I use for that?

For the new version, I believe it would be:
'clearowned' - removes ownership of claimed items, solving problems with worn clothing and military starving out the fort.

Although I've only ever used the old version that was packaged with the Lazy Newb Pack.  In that case I would go to the DFHack folder manuualy and run something like "dfconsfiscate.bat"

The readme will probably explain it better for the new version.

All right I am discovering that DFhack needs a bit of attention to work properly.

I am running DF with the LNP under Windows. How am I supposed to use the "clearowned" command? I am sorry for this stupid question

Not a stupid question, took me a few days and asking a bunch of people in the DFHack thread to figure out  . 

Spoiler: Long and poorly explained roundabout way of using the old DFHack bundled with LNP (click to show/hide)

For most of the basic DFHack tools, you can run them straight from the LNP window.  Make sure Dwarf Fortress is running and paused.  One of the tabs (Utilities, maybe?) has alist of all the extra utilities like Dwarf Therapist, SoundSense etc.  Scroll down on that list and you'll see a whole bunch of DFHack tools, that you just doubleclick to activate.  Now the one there for owned items (near the top) I believe only affects owned food by default.  To remove ownership of all owned items, you can click the "Open Utilities Folder" button in the bottom right hand corner, or manually find the DFHack folder in your Lazy Newb Pack folder > Utilities > C Hack > DFHack in File Explorer.  Now, in the DFHack folder, there is a list of all the tools, plus a few extras, one is right next to the owned items tool, but ends in .bat (dfconfiscate.bat I think).  Double click that, and it should remove all ownership tags.  To do more fiddly things and use more advanced commands, you can add options to the different tools, as described in the Help / readme in the DFHack folder.  To actually use those, though, you'll need to do the following:

To do this, open up a command console.  Type cmd into "Run..." or the "Start Search" in the Start Menu if you are using Windows.  Then, navigate to the directory that contains the DFHack tools.  for example, type "cd C:\Games\Dwarf Fortress\LazyNewbPack[0.31.25][V9.2]\LNP\Utilities\C-Hacks\DFhack 0.5.15"  , depending on where it's located.  If your installation is in a different partition (as it was for me) you'll have to add "cd /d" instead of 'cd'.  Once you have changed to that directory, type the name of the tool, a space, then the option.  For me it was "dfcleanowned.exe -a", to use the dfcleanowned command, with the 'a' option (the 'a' option sets it to 'all items'.  The list of options is in the readme/help file). 

Phew.  Complicated, long, difficult, and very picky.  In other words, absolutely dwarven.

Or you could install the new DFHack and it'd probably be way easier.  I just haven't bothered updating.

Thank you for your reply Actually the reason why I was asking is that there are no  such *.bat file in the DFhack directory. Only dfXvdig.bat. There are also no dfcleanowned.exe.... I will try to find them elsewhere

Quote from: Varnifane on September 20, 2011, 03:20:39 pm

Quote from: Girlinhat on September 20, 2011, 12:00:13 pm

Either way, I plan to make a zombie moat.  Magma moats are expensive, and cost lives.  Zombie moats are cheap, and cost MORE likves!

A proper zombie moat would have multiple rings.

• A dry moat full of zombie badgers, giant badgers, badger men and badger women
• A wet moat full of zombie carp
• A magma moat full of magma crabs

Magma crabs don't need magma, and may even harm zombie magma crabs. A wet moat of carp AND badgers may be more effective, if they can't climb out.

In fact, just have a dry moat of carp and badgers!

Paraphrased: This next experiment involves trace amounts of time travel.  If you see someone who looks like you, don't look them in the eye.  Seriously, the lab boys say it could destroy time.  Forever.  Forwards and back.  So if you see yourself running through the course, just let that handsome devil go on his way.