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That's mostly ElfCollaborator :P

For me, if your character is decent, a paragraph of bio is enough.
I learned from the best :P

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I get that approach. I prefer to buff in favour of my players rather than nerf, and a retroactive change just changes the rules of engagement, which is never good for the players. You don't want them thinking you'll whisk something away from them as and when convenient; I've been on the receiving end of that and I actually quit that game as a result.
To be fair Elf, your players probably don't do dumb decisions multiple turns in a row, necessitating the Royalty of their side to exact their frustrations on the design team.
Not yet, give it time and we'll get corpsewalling soon enough.

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I get that approach. I prefer to buff in favour of my players rather than nerf, and a retroactive change just changes the rules of engagement, which is never good for the players. You don't want them thinking you'll whisk something away from them as and when convenient; I've been on the receiving end of that and I actually quit that game as a result.

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Now as a GM it takes a buttload of time and I am very dumb smart for taking on four of them at once.

I do this with arms races. We're part of a pretty stupid exclusive bigbrained club. But making things is addicting, and having people enjoy the things you make even moreso.
Nah, for real. If I had half the aptitude you seem to have for AR (from what I hear) I'd be twice as productive.

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Ah, yeah, if that's what you mean then it can be a commitment for the long run, yeah. The fastest a campaign has run was about....a year and a half (one of my own FEFs, actually, Whereabouts of Drink and Coin).

If it helps we've been experimenting with more short-form or low-investment FEFs (see above), but with the format of how FEF works and its mechanics, it does grind up to the limit of doability within the system.

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"I see."
Emilia looks over at Tanja and Rhian.
"Are you two ready to go?"

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If I were feeling petty, I would copy a list of the forum bans and point out how many of them were from FG&RP, but I don't have any particular desire to extend this argument for any longer than is strictly necessary. If you're not willing to listen, why should I waste time talking to you instead of designing my new roleplay, updating Vestals of the Waves, or, hell, even playing video games?

One person does not a pattern make. Follow Occam's Razor: is there a big exclusionary culture that everyone is a part of, or do you need to step back for a bit before you damage your reputation even further than already? I know which one is simpler.

I see. I'm surprised FEF has survived so long with that kinda thing stopping other, more popular games from hitting it off.

....granted, I'm also the one running a lot of the FEFs nowadays, but we're getting that community drive to move stuff off now that we have an actual calculator to do things.

FEF has a huge community around it sustaining it. I can't tell you how it got to that point - you've been in the community for a lot longer than I - but I suspect the reason that no other game has gotten to that point is that there aren't enough people willing to launch something. GURPS, to use that example, is fairly niche among TTRPGs - and chargen has a Hell of a learning curve, so it almost demands that the GM is around to help. That sort of closeness just isn't possible with PbP, so you would almost certainly need to communicate off-site (i.e. Discord) and at that point why not just skip the middleman and run your game there?

Were there any experiments running FEF, or something like it, in real-time? I suspect since the system is not designed for that it won't work well, which makes it much harder to lose players to offsite games.
There was actually one attempt, back at the dawn of time, to run a live session of FEF on Maptools.

We never tried that again.

I remember when I wanted to do a PbP GURPS game. Looking back, that was ill-advised - GURPS is crunchy enough that doing it play-by-post would be like waiting for a glacier to carry you across the Atlantic.
I see. I'm surprised FEF has survived so long with that kinda thing stopping other, more popular games from hitting it off.

....granted, I'm also the one running a lot of the FEFs nowadays, but we're getting that community drive to move stuff off now that we have an actual calculator to do things.
I've thought about trying FEF many times, but I'm not sure I am capable of the time commitment. What would you say it takes to get into it?
excellent, someone to convert to the cult

I mean, ahem, with regards to time commitment, it's actually significantly heavier on the GM's side than it is on the player's side. Essentially, as a player, you only need to post at your convenience, maybe check in once or twice a week during fights (as fights are processed GM-side). I would recommend taking some time just to roleplay with your fellow players (both for roleplay reasons and also to get your support levels up) and also checking in on the thread to make sure you haven't been left behind, but for players it's actually pretty light with time commitment.

Now as a GM it takes a buttload of time and I am very dumb smart for taking on four of them at once.

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I remember when I wanted to do a PbP GURPS game. Looking back, that was ill-advised - GURPS is crunchy enough that doing it play-by-post would be like waiting for a glacier to carry you across the Atlantic.
I see. I'm surprised FEF has survived so long with that kinda thing stopping other, more popular games from hitting it off.

....granted, I'm also the one running a lot of the FEFs nowadays, but we're getting that community drive to move stuff off now that we have an actual calculator to do things.

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I dunno, I feel like I miss DnD on these forums. I still remember that campaign Skyrunner did back in the day, introduced me to some great roleplayers. A lot of them have since graduated onto the FEF community for lack of a better term, which has been nice.

Hell I'm surprised we don't run more campaigns of tabletops on here. Could be nice to do that or at least use FGRP as a base for running live sessions elsewhere and keeping AARs of live sessions on here to entice new joiners (granted it's been a while since I posted anything but FEFs here so I don't remember the rules on AARs).

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I disagree, but for a different reason.

As he just made clear, he doesn't respect our opinions (at least opinions that point out his mistakes when he opens the door to their discussion), nor is he willing to take any advice that places any responsibility on himself. We are a community here on FGRP, and if we want to self-moderate instead of asking the moderation team to deal with this, that's fine. But if that means we have to just shut him out entirely because of the negative influence he has on the community's members, so be it. Better we entirely ignore his input until he is either prepared to engage in good faith without blatantly disrespecting everyone else in the discussion or leaves to find another community that is more amenable to his needs. Or does something egregious enough to call down the moderation and get himself removed, though I have the impression he has done this already.

I see no loss to us either way; we either gain a valuable member of the community who is willing to engage us in good faith and equal ground, or we lose someone has contributed nothing of import and the forum moves on.

That being said, my own contribution to the discussion will be that I'm frankly surprised we've stopped running PbP DnD campaigns here.

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Yeah, it does seem like we're being asked to believe an extraordinary claim with no evidence.

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Not entirely true; I can confirm at least that he DID get himself excluded from a FEF over trying to co-opt (read; steal) someone else's application to that game on this very forum, which is what I believe he is partially referring to. However, aside from that, I cannot think of a single game that he HAS gotten himself excluded from, which further begs the question; where are the other examples, and what did he do leading up to those?

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I'm gonna be real, this sounds like someone grousing about not getting accepted into games and then painting it as criticism of bullying to give it a veneer of legitimacy. If I'm wrong, feel free to enlighten me, but I'm not about to hurl accusations at my fellow GMs for engaging in discriminatory practices if the one person making that accusation refuses to provide evidence.

Especially when the person making accusations about how ALL games are run on FGRP has literally just admitted they do NOT play very many games on FGRP, which begs the question; if you don't play very many games, how exactly can you come to such a overarching conclusion about games as run on FGRP?

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As there were only six completed sheets, they will all be selected for this game.

1. Kaya Hawa - notquitethere
2. Date Minato - Smoke Mirrors
3. Nagase Takeo - SeriousConcentrate
4. Mochizuki Kogen - SirAston
5. Sasagawa Ran - Gaterhyme
6. Shichimiya Yayoi - ctsun

Thank you for your time, and if you didn't get in, please do not be discouraged and do not hesitate to apply next time. Sheets will be updated within the week.

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"Hm....that can be arranged, if he has the time.."

Theodora blinks.
"Well, there's a difference between being well-liked and having friends, Lin. It's hard to find an emotional or physical equal, sometimes."

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