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We can point to the TV world, Richard, Kyle himself, Anima, etc, etc. for proof.

Dayum, Kyle's surprisingly flat-earthy for, well, a magical boy. :P

45452
So as usual, Marie gets to laugh at her scientific outlook being superior and allowing for peace of mind even if she knew full well that she didn't have a soul. Because that's interesting! :P
And Anima gets to resume not giving a shit because she got over that before the Romans became an empire!

45453
yeah, but without a soul, ICARUS would literaly just be a thing. A simulation of a mind, even less of a mind than HILDA, who at least got this void stuff going on where you seemingly never have a soul. But ICARUS has no relation to the void whatsoever. For ICARUS, the distinction between having a soul and not having a soul is the difference between being a person and a toaster.
Well, the answer to that question might be solved by shoving her into the nearest TV and seeing if a Shadow forms. If it does, she has a soul. If not, well, we tried.

And Kyle is firmly believes that souls are bullshit as no one has shown him proof of it that is concrete. Which is what happened last time. If he does have a soul he will remove it as it is unessessary.
Uh....yeah, the only ways someone can perform soulectomy on themselves is to die, throw themselves into the Void and hope for the best, or a lot of painful experiments which will probably result in him dying first.

Hell, Kyle IS proof they exist; say hi, Merlin.

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Hell, the only person who does is probably ICARUS, ironically.

45455
((Oh, and since it came up... THE PEOPLE IN THE CASTLE ARE BEING SCHOOLED. I HAVE SAID THIS ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.))
((WELL I SOMEHOW MISSED ALL OF THEM. SO THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP.))

45456
yup.

if ICARUS invested actual thought into what Marie was saying, she might come to the conclusion that she does not have a soul, and that would unsettle her. Since it has no advantage of knowing that you have no soul, and since there is no downside to believing that you have a soul eventhough you might not have one, the overall effect is simply entirely removing a gigantic source of worry and existential dread that comes along with that question. ICARUS was basicaly just going (LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU) internaly the entire time, because she does not want to give Marie the chance to even instill a hint of a doubt in her mind.

and you gotta admit, it's kind of a mean thing to do and make someone question wether or not they have a soul, especially when that person is one of the first sentient AIs that currently exist and spends most her nights, unable to sleep, with trying to not be crushed by the question of what the hell she actually is. Massively touchy question. Just looke at what that got HILDA.
If it wasn't for the no canon character rule, Richard would have shut them both up by referring to robots that have Personas, which kinda sets precedent for robots to have souls/be sentient.

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That's all that happened? What about the raid on ASMRA?
Oh, yeah, that. That was a bit forgotten when the souls thing came up*.

*aka we won

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((Yep.))

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((Maria said it was Sunday...))

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But how would you prove the expert being an expert if there is no proof that the expert isn't telling you lies due to a lack of proof?
The thing in question wasn't the presence or absence of proof--it's the experts' analysis of said proof.
Or rather, said proof being simultaneously an expert in it and being proof herself.


I RETURN!
Someone summarize what happened pls
Right now, Kyle doesn't believe in souls, despite one of his closest allies being one- this sparked off a discussion about spirits and shit.

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>Why, you already met them. Miss Tara, otherwise known as the Horsewoman of Death can confirm my story. As can sir Chiron; he was the one who oversaw my cremation. And a good friend of mine, Iolodammus; I believe asking Alistair might help there.

I will not attempt to convince you, however, if you will not see it as I do. Pursue these links at your own discretion.<

Anima proceeds to shut off her mental link while meditating within the shared mindscape of her and Maria.

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<How is you telling me that you are a soul proof? For all I know you're a normal shapeshifter with multiple disasotiative personality disorder that unconsciously shifts forms with personalities?>

Kyle says before going on the quest for Angel.
>There are enough people who saw my mortal self die, and proceed to cremate my body to disprove you of that notion. And go ahead, have Maria tested; I can assure you she is completely human.

I do find your assertion interesting; I have heard many people explain why there can and can't be souls. The Enlightenment was a very....curious time.<

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Everything: Gaiden
« on: March 23, 2014, 03:53:36 pm »
"Still....I dunno.....I know I didn't-couldn't have done anything about it.....but I still feel responsible... I'm sorry i-if I sound like...a-an idiot...." She starts sobbing into Lucinda's shoulder/chest/whichever is convenient.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Everything: Gaiden
« on: March 23, 2014, 03:49:53 pm »
"It's just....those people......they came there to have fun and enjoy themselves and....and they died....and I feel responsible..."

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Also, Anima IS pretty much a soul. If her name didn't give it away at first glance, and the whole "her summoning thing is essentially her possessing Maria".

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