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Messages - IamanElfCollaborator

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Actually, Corvus would be an Ascendant if he was revived. Putting him on JUUUST a higher cosmic ladder rung than mortals. He'd still need a weapon of some sort and skill to fight Nelkathar even if he was depowered though.

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We've been talking about this for a day now. If he discouraged it, then he'd have said something. I'll probably have to find out IC as I'm the only person with a reason to bring back dead gods (allies, curiosity, atonement).

Also, Nelkathar would be mortal under my theoretical rules, so he wouldn't be as badass as Deathwing unless he was re-fatetouched.


And another thing, if the god was re-killed, then he'd be permanently dead. Probably because his essence would be so used up that there is literally nothing left. Not even cosmic leftovers that were originally left behind.

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Then some of their bits would be used.

I'm working under the assumption that as Ghazkull hasn't said No, that this is still open but I still want to flesh out how it could theoretically work.

64159
Qebeh is dead. He's not MAKING new creations.

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So basically, Nelkathar, Thaneos, Az-Sho,  and Aodun (if he dies) can only be revived in this timeframe.

Neyravah, Aldemas, Corvus, and Vanida could be revived anytime, as could Sabt Golgo.

Vasvaldi, Lo, Udil, Qebeh and Aur-Sha cannot be revived, as they have no creations to create catalysts with, although in Aur-Sha's case she could be revived with Fire Giant blood. She's a borderline case.


Again, theory.

64161
Oh, and a single scale from Aur-Sha, as she is technically his creation.

64162
And for Corvus, a chunk of the Corvid Moon, a feather of the Crowborn, a brick from Ravenas, and a bone of the Crowblessed.

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Actually, the way I'd do it is simply by pulling their scattered energy (seriously, when is the LAST time you completely ate something? At most there would be small bits left, not enough to reform the god, not without outside intervention like the "truly omnipotent" Mighty Acts) together via using some of their creations (i.e if I were to revive Neyravah, I'd get some of Nelkathar's ashes, a scale of a Drake, and part of a shell of a mountain turtle) as a catalyst which in theory, when powered by a Mighty Act, would call together their scattered energy (essentially, what little bits there are left of them) and rearrange and multiply them to recreate the god in a weaker form.

Also, it's a mighty act in theory and the only two gods who would want to revive Az-Sho anyway are Corvus and Aur-Sha who can't acquire them anyway.

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I mean, most mythologies have godly underworlds, so it stands that here there should be one. In theory, this means that anyone short of an Overgod could be recalled, but they'd either be zombified or weaker, i.e Ancients become Youngers (sorry Az-Sho), Elders become Youngers, (sorry Neyravah), Youngers become Ascendants (sorry Aldemas), and Ascendants become pure mortals (sorry Nelkathar). Also, due to pragmatic reasons, only gods whose players are still around and unbanned by Ghazkull could be returned, so no Mutare reviving and Thaneos is probably staying dead, unless Shootandrun comes back.

This is all hypothetical, of course.

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Unless you get some lucky rolls, I doubt it. At this point, if Aodun finds you which most likely he will, not even Taeri can save Vanida.

Also, yay Crowborn.

64166
Well, Corvus was sort of pissed as fuck when she tried to call him a hypocrite. This is the guy who doesn't like lying or having to backstab others, and he's also quite intelligent and connects the dots slightly easier and faster. He makes the assumption that others can too. Sadly, from first hand experience, a common occurrence IRL.

So yeah, Knowledge Jesus just got pissed at Vanida. Woo.

64167
That's where the magic comes in. It preserves the layout and pattern of the charges by some doohickey which you can explain by electrons and shit, storing it in the planet rather than the atmosphere to prevent the charges disappearing via lightning storm.

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Or alternatively, the planet just captures the charges in itself and stores them.

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And yet Vanida is more vulnerable than he is. Seriously, she rejected the only god willing to help her when she was right on the same planet as Udil and Aodun. Who's as hungry as fuck.

Naive as Corvus is, Vanida is a bit stupid for rejecting just about the only offer she'll get unless someone proves me wrong.

64170
" I wished to offer help by taking mortals onto my moon and carrying them safely to the galaxy created by the overgod Taeri, but you are clearly unable to forgive.

You dare call me a hypocrite? You declare war on others remorselessly and butcher millions, but now you care about mortals? May I remind you that Az-Sho was forced to do this by Udil? Or that Thaneos blatantly ignored his own promises? And the fact that I was trying to prevent Aldemas from gaining power from my death and only killed him on the basis of luck? You know nothing of it, Lust Goddess! I will bear the burden of murdering Aldemas forevermore, and if I could, I would revive him and set him free. You would do no such for anyone.

You're as hypocritical as me. At least I am attempting to atone for the mistakes I gave made. Aldemas was not meant to die and I have attempted in my best ability to help those who would save the shades.  As it is, what have you done, save cower away on other planets? I fled because I had no other choice. You had worshippers, I had none.

And as for the spawn of Az-Sho, what right have you to tell me I am such a monster for protecting her? You are protecting mortals. I am protecting a child. Of course you would know no such thing, you are incapable of loving. Such irony, you called all of us impassionate monsters at the Godsmeet, yet I am capable of forgiveness and caring for a child that is not mine, but you are incapable of letting something go for the sake of potential help. As it is Aur-Sha is as vulnerable to the other gods as the mortals, and I am unwilling to let her die so quickly. You have no room to talk, as you abandoned your own children.

Fine. Ignore my proposal. The hand of forgiveness is always open, but you have rejected it. Do not expect me to let you plead help when Aodun or Udil takes you. I wish you good luck in evading them, but I doubt anyone can. I am no puppet, not anymore.  And you shouldn't be one to your own grudges, not that you'd listen to sane advice from me.

Good luck protecting what little you have from the predators. And do not call for the Crow when you are to follow those who have passed."

A whooshing sound followed, and Vanida found that she could no longer contact Corvus.

As Corvus shut the link off, several crows flew by Vanida, cawing at her derisively. They vanished before she could retaliate.

He sighed.
"She is a troubled goddess, and that perhaps shall doom her."

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