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Quote from: Shakerag on September 21, 2011, 10:23:13 am

Extend

Why?

Frankly, because I'm not satisfied with the votes as they stand.  I'm not convinced of mipe9's scumminess, so I want time for people to either convince me, and/or analyze statements I have made against someone I think is scummier. 

Why are you so opposed to an extension?

Okay, I'll go back and answer specific questions in a bit, but here's a blow-by-blow analysis of Mindmaker and his posts.  At the time of writing, the lurkertracker shows 23 posts, one of those being the "in" post.  (That would be post [zero])

Bolded text is direct quotes, italics are my (additional) commentary.

[1] Vote Mormota, ask a question
[2] not hunting; offering advice
[3] asking Jafferey about mipe9 after his act
[4] asking mipe9 to be more helpful, not probing or pressing, though
[5] unvote, restating earlier question to jafferey
[6] vote Jafferey, still on same question
[7] asking people to ask him questions
[8] still waiting on question from Jafferey,
"Day 1 has never been my strong suit. I can't come up with unique questions anymore...

Tomorrow maybe."
Really?  Come on now ...
[9] Responding to someone else, but still no hunting
[10] answering question, not scumhunting, get back to jim tomorrow (5:50 pm)
[11] respond to orangebottle, tell jim to wait (6:25 pm)
(after this post, [11], is where Orangebottle appears to be defending Mindmaker to Jim)
[12] pre-emptive defensiveness to jim, still not scumhunting
[13] further defending, but still no hunting
[14] still waiting on jafferey
[15] responding to extension question
[16] asking others for extension
"Uhm guys, time is running out.
You sure you can make a decision? If not we need 2 more votes (I believe) for an extension."
Interesting wording ... not "we" can make a decision, but "you". 
[17] unvote, but no direction toward anyone else
[18] respond to question, suspecting mipe9 again
[19] FINALLY ask a question, but only because I replaced the original person he was asking, vote mipe9
At this point, it is September 20th, just about noon by what the board says.  The last real question Mindmaker asked was September 16th, 6AM.  Active lurking much?
Also, now that mipe9 has two votes on him, here is where Mindmaker finally decides to hop on the bandwagon.  If you've been mentioning him for days, why only now vote for him?[20] defensive against Mormota's inquiry, not really presenting any "defense" other than attacking Mormota
[21] respond to my inquiries, still no hunting
[22] responding to Powder Miner about voting, still no hunting

And, just as a totally unrelated side note to that last post, not everyone has the same posts-per-page.  I see this thread as only 5 pages.

Also, forgive the formatting because Jesus Christ that took a while to get together.

Shakerag, I'll ask you the same question, as I asked the person you replaced. What do you think of mipe9 and his appraoch. I understand you just joined the game, so take your time to read up on it.

I am inclined to think that mipe9 is likely a townie.  He had a very crazy and aggressive tactic early on to reaction fish, and I would think that, if he was scum, that would be a very risky thing to do, seeing as he has brought a lot of attention on himself for it.  I think that since he thrust himself into the spotlight early like that, the scum in this game would try and get an easy bandwagon going on him.  Therefore, looking at who was jumping on mipe9, why, and when could yeld clues about who is scummy this game.

Interestingly, you seem to be very focused on mipe9 yourself ...

Hello everyone!  This is my first time, so be gentle and all that. 

Just to give some personal info, I'm in the Central time zone, and weekdays I'll be PFP, so posts may be scattered, but I'll be keeping an eye on the thread as I can.  Evenings are busy, as are weekend days.  I'm usually consistantly available nights (10:30 PM-ish CST), but that's at the mercy of my narcolepsy sometimes.

Shakerag, do you think you look scummy for replacing someone so lurky?

Well, looking at it the opposite way, if I was in a game and someone else who was lurky was replaced, I wouldn't have an immediate reason to suspect the replacement, because the person who was replaced was being lurky due to IRL issues.  Knowing that, unless there was an obvious slip-up in the replaced-person's posts, I feel like I'd have to get all new reads on the new person.

Powder Miner and Mindmaker, do you feel that asking everyone to ask you questions because you are "bored" is a scumtell?  Don't you think it would have been more townie-like to have been going after someone instead?