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Quote from: gogis on March 25, 2014, 02:46:46 pm

I am sad you drawing parallels. I believe we all came from Kievean Rus. Number of people called me idiot on that sentence, but whatever. I dont think it's language. It's mentality. On the other hand, you hate Russia. I am okay with that.

Gogis, correct me if I'm wrong but are you not a Mordvin? I don't think your ancestors came from Kievan Rus, rather... they were conquered. I mean, forgive me, you probably do have a lot of ancestors that came from it but there's more layers to this, surely.

I am literally Udmurt. I was born there. But my parents from Chelyabinsk, so I am not sure. As I understood, you are Scot? Well okay. You try and die trying to be a scot? Or what? I am russian. Fuck it. Bigger is better.

http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/03/25/7020294/

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Russian military after two hours of resistance stormed minesweeper "Odessa" in Lake Donuzlav.
The assault began with persecution at 18:13 , reported "Ukrainian Truth" senior artillery miner mines and torpedoes warhead senior sailor of the ship "Odessa" Alexander Gutnyk.
"Institute proceedings minesweeper" Odessa "two speedboats Russian Federation", - he said.
"So far, the minesweeper" Odessa "evades the attackers, maneuvering," - he added.
As of 18:50 stormed Cherkas with two Mi-35, three speedboats
"Personnel within zadrayanyy" - added Gutnyk.
As the head of the Ukrainian Pravda Media Center Ministry of Defense of Ukraine in Crimea Vladislav Seleznev, the "Cherkassy" going tug "Kovel". According to some information, heard explosions and gunshots.
At 19:14 Alex Tamrazov povdiomlyaye that heard a lot of shooting.
As of 19:18 lasting delight. "We drove and hitched explosive aboard," - said Gutnyk.
"We put smoke bombs that they have not caught up. But they caught us and made explosives. Nobody knows what this stuff. Zadrayani We. This is very dangerous because it can explode at any time" - said Gutnyk.
At 19:40 the ship went down the main control position the wheel "- said Gutnyk.
When asked whether this was because of the explosion, he said: "Yes."
"Ship" Odessa "switched to emergency management post the wheel," - he added.
As of 19:48 Russian invaders have landed on the ship and break the internal bulkhead to get to the room where the crew zabarykaduvalasya "Odessa", - said Vladislav Seleznev.
As of 20:00 heard gunshots and explosions, according to an eyewitness, located on the banks of Donuzlav.
At 20:17 the assault lasted more than two hours.
At 20:30 , according Selezneva citing eyewitness, who was on the shore Donuzlava, tug "Kovel" pulls mosrkyy trawler "Odessa" toward the 5 military town. Above the lake there is the smell of "dymovuhy."
Phone Gutnyk, contacted "Ukrainian Truth" is not responding.
"Odessa" - the only ship that remained in the Crimea with Ukrainian flag.

Do people think that if Ukraine was acting, militarily, like a normal country (instead of being absolutely terrified and basically completely acquiescing) that there wouldn't be a bunch of killing? Because I would imagine that had they resisted there would have been a lot of killing. The question is how long they can appease Russia's military and still stand as an independent country. Hopefully, indefinitely.

I bet you think they shouldnt? Same country, bet you.

Gogis, same mentality you say? Nope, we have very different mentalities. . Read that:

You think so. But I think different. Same country.

Quote from: gogis on March 25, 2014, 02:47:58 pm

I am fiercely against nationalism. Not like anybody belive me anyways.

I..buh..wha...

I...just...

Wat?

We clap when airbus landed.

Quote from: gogis on March 25, 2014, 02:39:30 pm

Russia + Ukraine + Belarus  = same people, same country.

And after that he claims that he doesn't want Kiev

PS, I suggest you to add Bulgaria to that same people list, Bulgarian language is much more closer to Russian than Ukrainian and similarities in Language is usually your main argument  in that "same people" nonsense

I am sad you drawing parallels. I believe we all came from Kievean Rus. Number of people called me idiot on that sentence, but whatever. I dont think it's language. It's mentality. On the other hand, you hate Russia. I am okay with that.

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Quote from: Urist McScoopbeard on March 25, 2014, 02:02:03 pm

First of all, don't trivialize shit bro. A large section of a country ...

Stopped reading right there. Keep your numbers straight. Numbers dont lie.

Keep my numbers straight? Dude, look at the percentage of land that it occupied in the Ukraine. FURTHERMORE, look at its location in the Black Sea, that is a huge strategic advantage for Russia to now  control Crimea.

Exactly. But Crimea is big for Russia, for Ukraine in terms of GDP is like 3% iirc

Doesn't matter, it was a huge bargaining chip for Ukraine, they got to lease the Svestapol port at their terms. It's also big for everyone, you think that what happens in Crimea applies only to Ukraine and Russia? This is literally how it starts, next it's Kiev, then who knows how far Putin will go?

EDIT: @Comrade, I meant the percentage of landmass which it had in comparison to the rest of the country!

You should never judge size of landmass to it's real value. And no, Kiev is not next, we dont need it.

... You didn't need Crimea.

Obviously we did. We paid huge amount amount of money for stationed fleet. It's politics.

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http://vk.com/photo-67972801_324175755

Oh common. Do you want me to find similar photos from Sudetenland 1938?
What the hell you want to prove with it? That some Crimeans great Russian Soldiers as liberators. OK. I know that. That doesn't change the fact that they are invaders

PS. German Soldiers never hid their faces or denied that they are soldiers of the Reich

I said you it's "propaganda". I see that in vkontakte, chuckle and move on. It's obviously propaganda crap. But you also keep posting links like that. Remember you posted links for Peter's child hospital? It's same shitty value. We all know that Peter have some of the oldest and unkempt buildings in whole russia. Whats the point? It's propaganda! No, most russia is not like Peter, I know that. I am citizen of 3 cities atleast.