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General Discussion / Re: Minimum Wage
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:53:10 pm »
No, they don't want to be prosperous in `our` meaning. Not at all.

Thats also why I am against idea of employing democracy everywhere. I am not very old, but I've been `there` and you never lose a feeling that you speak with people from other galaxy

So...democracy is good, except when the people who want it don't agree with you?

I think you may have misunderstood democracy.

Let's say it's my bad english. I meant some countries is in a no fucking state to embrace it. You know, I living under it, why should I demean it? Democracy is good, I've never said opposite.

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General Discussion / Re: Minimum Wage
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:45:50 pm »
And really? China and India where REPEATEDLY the superpower.

I have no idea what offending I said. As countries they are. As citizen, you don't want be theirs. I dont watch Fox, check my profile.

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General Discussion / Re: Minimum Wage
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:37:48 pm »
Did you just say there are countries that don't want o be big and prosperous? I think I sorta want to punch you right now.

And China is the world's second largest economy, and they are moving towards a service economy. India is getting fairly large too. And Brazil.

I've been living in India for 8 months. Amount of people that simply doesnt want to work (I am not even putting `hard` here) for whatever reason is staggering. Please, travel world, live there for prolonged period of time to understand mentality before throwing punches.
I've spoken to people living in Africa for 1+ years. No, they don't want to be prosperous in `our` meaning. Not at all.

Thats also why I am against idea of employing democracy everywhere. I am not very old, but I've been `there` and you never lose a feeling that you speak with people from other galaxy

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General Discussion / Re: Minimum Wage
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:26:13 pm »
I am a bit lost here. Minimal wage is some sort of regulation? There is always a way to employ workers in a gray/black way so why to bother? I've just recently seen some euronews report about Italy, which is currently having like 40% of job market to be "unnoficial" (yeah, fuck TV). I am pretty sure that in my country it's nothing better and I wouldnt be surprised that USA is guiltly here. I mean, if you not a subject for welfare for whatever reason you going to work for any amounts of money that will feed you of.

Lets see a bigger picture. I am pretty sure, that outsourcing jobs in China/India/Africa is what fucking up wages currently. I really really dislike that kind of approach, we outsource our economy to countries that historically never wanted to become something big and prosperous. Leave them alone, leave them die in poverty if thats their agenda. I couldnt care less about starving kids in Africa.
Actually, they tend to want to become big and prosperous, especially with globalization, and we can reign in outsourcing by reducing the cost of business here in the states.

This way you unemploy YOUR citizen for a profit of business shareholders. I dont see positives.
... Wha? You're not making sense here. What I'm saying is that by reducing the cost of business (which drives them overseas for some stuff), when we may be able to get some jobs back, though many are most likely staying overseas.

No, thats makes alot of sense. Reduced cost of business is always going to pocket of shareholders, what you expect here? If I am a shareholder I would demand this money as my dividends, why should I care about creating some new extra jobs?

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General Discussion / Re: Minimum Wage
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:18:41 pm »
I am a bit lost here. Minimal wage is some sort of regulation? There is always a way to employ workers in a gray/black way so why to bother? I've just recently seen some euronews report about Italy, which is currently having like 40% of job market to be "unnoficial" (yeah, fuck TV). I am pretty sure that in my country it's nothing better and I wouldnt be surprised that USA is guiltly here. I mean, if you not a subject for welfare for whatever reason you going to work for any amounts of money that will feed you of.

Lets see a bigger picture. I am pretty sure, that outsourcing jobs in China/India/Africa is what fucking up wages currently. I really really dislike that kind of approach, we outsource our economy to countries that historically never wanted to become something big and prosperous. Leave them alone, leave them die in poverty if thats their agenda. I couldnt care less about starving kids in Africa.
Actually, they tend to want to become big and prosperous, especially with globalization, and we can reign in outsourcing by reducing the cost of business here in the states.

This way you unemploy YOUR citizens for a profit of business shareholders. I dont see positives.

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General Discussion / Re: Minimum Wage
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:00:36 pm »
I am a bit lost here. Minimal wage is some sort of regulation? There is always a way to employ workers in a gray/black way so why to bother? I've just recently seen some euronews report about Italy, which is currently having like 40% of job market to be "unnoficial" (yeah, fuck TV). I am pretty sure that in my country it's nothing better and I wouldnt be surprised that USA is guiltly here. I mean, if you not a subject for welfare for whatever reason you going to work for any amounts of money that will feed you of.

Lets see a bigger picture. I am pretty sure, that outsourcing jobs in China/India/Africa is what fucking up wages currently. I really really dislike that kind of approach, we outsource our economy to countries that historically never wanted to become something big and prosperous. Leave them alone, leave them die in poverty if thats their agenda. I couldnt care less about starving kids in Africa.

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General Discussion / Re: Russia Strikes Meteor
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:04:44 am »
Obviously faked video though. He's wearing a seatbelt.

Actually the cars passing him can't be seen out the driver side window. So it is fake. But I love it anyway.

Actually video is real. Most dashcam users install 2 cameras. Obviously you wont see much inner videos on youtube.

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General Discussion / Re: Russia Strikes Meteor
« on: February 21, 2013, 07:56:40 am »
Thats how brutal Chelyabinsk drivers react on UFO object in sky

http://s.pikabu.ru/post_img/2013/02/21/5/1361427598_106026659.gif

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 15, 2013, 04:47:47 am »
Well there is the main reason why I've been trying to edge towards vegetarianism, it's a big source of cholesterol, and raises your risk of stomach/colon cancer. Not to mention some other possible health concerns with regards to the antibiotics, growth hormones, and just the general chemicals that the animal you're eating has picked up through it's food/water/environment.

High cholesterol is matter of o3/o6 fatty acids balance, and surprisingly, you can't control it by vegan diet at all and most plant oils is ridiculously bad sources of fat, compared to animal oils. It's quite easy to have enormous bad cholesterol on a vegan diet. With obvious b12 deficiency, which is another perk.

How can diet be any healthy at all if its require taking supplements? Thats sick brainwashing here

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 15, 2013, 04:33:10 am »
Where you get this information?  Vegetables was seasonal, fruits was not even remotely that tasty like nowadays (do you ever tried wild apples? bitter as fuck and small as peanuts) and in some regions (take inuits) was nothing else but meat. Ratio was more like 95% animal, 5% - vegeterian.

Agriculture allowed all this boom of population, because it's so easy to settle and feed on crops instead of running down mammots.
Firstly our ancestors were unlikely to have been eating wild apples because of where we are from and not all wild fruit is bad. Besides that I wonder why our ancestors would care more about bitter fruit than other primates?

What you say about the inuit and other northern peoples is true but only because of the limited availability of plant foods. More equatorial peoples tend to get far more of their food from plants (up to 50%). The average hunter gatherer diet today consists of 64–68% animal and 32–36% plant based foods.

Our nearest relative the chimpanzee and ourselves have a functionally very similar digestive tract. They are largely fruit eaters with 95% of their calories coming from plants supplemented by animal based foods. Don't get me wrong, when it comes to diet I see an omnivorous one to be the healthier option most of the time and most clearly what we evolved for. I just disagree that we should only eat "some" vegetables.

As for tying the population boom to agriculture: This is a chicken and egg situation. Did we start farming because an increased population left us no choice or did population increase because we had more food from farming? It certainly appears that early farming peoples were less of stature than neighbouring hunters but there is debate about if it was diet that caused this also. The stature of modern farming peoples is certainly greater than that of modern hunters. If you haven't read it before I strongly suggest Gun Germs and Steel which talks about this in some detail.

Humans and their ancestors will have been eating fruit and other plants long before we started hunting.
Pandas' and pigs' ancestors were purely carnivorous, ancestors of our fruit eating ancestors were eating insects, what's your point?
That line was meant to contrast gogis point about us shifting from hunters into farmers. Mostly it was to highlight the flaw in choosing to mainly eat meat based on our having been mostly hunters for longer than we've been mostly farmers by pointing out that we've gone through long times of mostly eating fruit also.

Our fruit eating ancestors would have likely been eating insects too.

All modern tasty fruits derived from largerly lowsugar wild ancestor. You simply can't gorge on that in past.
About chimps - while being relativly closest to us, they still was developing as a branch for millions years. You can't really compare humans with monkeys anymore with all those findings of ancient human ancestors.
And about chicken egg problem? Real problem is that people delved into diet which was never common for their bodies - grain was never major source of food, it's basically wild planetwise experiment. Not suprisingly, gluten intolerance and other crap.

With that agenda in mind we can now reside to eat japaneese shitburgers because it's so enviromentalistic. I say no way.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 14, 2013, 05:45:58 am »
Human bodies was meant to eat meat plus SOME veggies.
Actually all problems we have now happened due agriculture invention leading to overpopulation.
Millions years as mostly carnivores vs 10k years of agriculture?
I take meat. Anyday. And it's healthier than gorging on grain.
More like the other way around. Vegetables plus some meat if you want to stay healthy. Humans and their ancestors will have been eating fruit and other plants long before we started hunting.

Do also take note of how our eyes point forward like adogs, not outwards like a horse.
That's a primate adaptation likely to have come from depth perception being handy for climbing trees.

Where you get this information?  Vegetables was seasonal, fruits was not even remotely that tasty like nowadays (do you ever tried wild apples? bitter as fuck and small as peanuts) and in some regions (take inuits) was nothing else but meat. Ratio was more like 95% animal, 5% - vegeterian.

Agriculture allowed all this boom of population, because it's so easy to settle and feed on crops instead of running down mammots.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 14, 2013, 04:24:02 am »
Human bodies was meant to eat meat plus SOME veggies.
Actually all problems we have now happened due agriculture invention leading to overpopulation.
Millions years as mostly carnivores vs 10k years of agriculture?
I take meat. Anyday. And it's healthier than gorging on grain.

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General Discussion / Re: Arms and Armor discussion
« on: February 07, 2013, 05:27:18 am »
One of the most effective ways to deal with the best enemy pikemen was for Knights to dismount, get beneath the pikes and begin hacking. The heavily armoured men at arms would heavily outclass the pikemen, providing they didn't get stabbed to pieces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweih%C3%A4nder

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General Discussion / Re: How's your generation doing?
« on: February 05, 2013, 08:29:25 pm »
I can't believe I've read this overly depressive thread. It's can't be all that bad. Vote for free education or sumthing? Either TV lying to me or you, I suppose  >:(

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General Discussion / Re: a Real Life Embark
« on: January 31, 2013, 01:16:06 pm »
Thats interesting

"I did check the pistol that hung at my side."

I never knew we have allowed hand gun rights to prospectors.

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