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what tileset are you using, jaqie?

edit - nm, found it in your signature

[ October 24, 2007: Message edited by: Vengeful Donut ]

Unless you're really picky about your traps and insist on building one that converts goblins into piles of metal and bones and delivers the remains to a special area right by your smelter.

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Originally posted by Zironic:
<STRONG>I don't want to bother but just forget about math.</STRONG>

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(area doesnt change)
(1 diagonal movement costs root(2))

If we're assuming that the optimal fortress shape is the set of all tiles whose distance from the center is X number of steps, then the shape you get would be something like this:
- Each horizontal cross section is roughly circular
- The radius of each 'circle' is equal to the radius of the largest 'circle' minus the number of levels away from the center.

This is because diagonal movement within the same z level is permitted, but follows normal distance calculation movement costs. It's not exactly a circle because each individual step is in one of 8 directions. I think it will be more of an octagon if it gets large enough. The minimum amount of DF distance a dwarf needs to cross to get to tile (x,y) from tile (0,0) is equal to

* sqrt(2)min[x,y] + |x - y|

min[x,y] is the number of diagonal steps used. |x - y| is the number of straight steps used.

Movement between z-levels is directly up/down for dwarves, so moving between z-levels (on stairs) costs 1 tile of movement. So to get to tile (x, y, z) from tile (0,0,0) a dwarf needs to travel this much:

* sqrt(2)min[x,y] + |x - y| + z

[ April 08, 2008: Message edited by: Vengeful Donut ]

I move that all posters using namecalling in this thread be branded with the label they used.

On that note, I would like you add that all of you are very kind, rational, and considerate people.

Eight was mine. It was a mistake not to mandate bolts.

You may not have known this, but Eight had a brother named Refin that planned to arrive at the outpost later. He was also a hunter. Since Eight had no heirs, his death would make Refin the new imperator.

[ December 12, 2007: Message edited by: Vengeful Donut ]

Name: Eight
Title: Imperator
Skills: Ambusher (2), Marksdwarf (1)
Starting equipment: 25 cats
Seed: idc

[ December 11, 2007: Message edited by: Vengeful Donut ]

Traffic does not degrade food.