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Originally posted by InquisitiveIdiot:
<STRONG>There are advantages to every melee weapon, but the best place to use them is by far weapon traps.  I prefer to use bludgeon damage  at first, for its raw, massive damage.  Two traps with five war hammers each are more than enough to scare off the first few sieges, and further traps built from the weapons of the fallen outpace additional siege force growth.

Raising a melee army can be fun.  But it's also time-consuming, expensive, risky, frustrating, and ultimately nowhere near as effective as a large, serrated disk in the gut.</STRONG>

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Why not use the special trap weapons? they only take 1 bar now (they used to take 2 in the 2d version) and are better in every way then a normal weapon.

The only reason to use a normal weapon is if you have a ton laying around after a goblin siege, imo. Even then I'd rather melt them and make trap weapons unless I need the traps RIGHT NOW.

I have no idea what happens if you add it to dwarves.

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Originally posted by ShunterAlhena:
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Related question: who am I in the game? I'm not the expedition leader, or mayor, or king, we have characters for that. I'm not a god either, we have a separate pantheon coming up, recently commissioned by Toady. So what is my role? Guiding spirit? Common will?</STRONG>

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I guess common will is the closest thing. I always imagined that the things I did were the sum of the decisions made by everyone in charge.

also not that eventually that stack of 500 coins will turn into 500 stacks of 1 coin, and there is no way to recombine them. It might not sound bad, but if you make 20,000 coins and they split into 20,000 piles that's a lot of coins laying around everywhere cluttering things up.

You can build stuff on the frozen lake... and I have no idea what happens when it thaws but I assume it's the same as a cave-in and buildings get destroyed and dump the materials to the bottom.

If you are going to build on the lake connected to the shore, you can just build floors off the shore and those count as support. If you want to build an island, then yes you should build supports first - be careful though, lakes seem to thaw a bit faster too so do it quick so you don't drown your dwarves.

If it's in the middle of the fort, or it does not stop burning after a year or so, you might want to consider dumping water on it.

You don't need to get rid of them, they don't hurt anything and they will go away eventually. If you really want to though, you can buy a cat or 2 from the human traders and they will make quick work of them.

Otherwise I don't think animal traps will work because more bats will just spawn - the cats will automatically kill them but you will have to set new animal traps and use up even more meat baiting them which is just a pain in the rear.

I drowned the elves too, but I don't think they care about the caravans and only attack if you cut down too many trees. I've never gotten that far because my game lags too bad before I can get the diplomat.

so... results are inconclusive but it looks like maybe they don't.

[ January 06, 2008: Message edited by: BurnedToast ]