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They're not going to be effective unless you've got a few dozen or so of them. It's one of the big reasons why small missile ships need to be basically specialized launchers strapped onto a drive: you need large salvos to land decent numbers of hits, especially with low tech. Three ASM launchers per ship firing missiles with CTH that low are going to do basically nothing against enemy ships, and three AAM launchers in the same condition will do even less to enemy missile fire.

Split them into dedicated PD and offensive platforms. For a ship between 1k tons and 10k tons, you should have at least six to eight launchers. For a ship that size, you can easily manage twelve. Do the same for your AMM platforms, except that you can fit in more launchers and missiles.

Also 43 AMMs in the magazine won't last you very long. My command ships have way more than that.

Thanks! Taken care of, somewhat. PD-dedicated ships set up, and number of launchers increased.

Agree with the above, and AWFULLY short range on the AMM, you're not gonna get many repeat shots at incomings.  With a 3-1 allocation your AMMs will kill something like 70% of your ASM as designed, which will be a lot of leakers if you don't get multiple shots or have PD gun ships.  So actually yeah if you do it this way maybe you do need the heavyish armor you have.  On the gripping hand, it's the scouts with the big sensors that will be the main targets, if you offset those a little your other ships probably won't come under much missile fire until the range closes considerably.  The scouts  better be set up to eat a ton though, unless you scam the AI with the switch on/off trick...

shit.. Too late! it's happening



edit: battle summary: all my missiles missed. all their missiles hit. crushing defeat.

Well it's happening again

I'd approximate the number of alien ships to be close to an ass-load. 80 to be more exact, each armed with a meson cannon, RoF 1. And that Martadinata has 29 itself.. So basically my geosurvey fleet got instantly vaporized. Aliens are really starting to hurt my feelings. I have to wonder, what are the sorts of minimum requirements for fighting off such forces?

So, having some shoddy luck figuring out how naval combat operates in this game.

1. Do you have to assign fire controls to every individual ship in a fleet? I would've figured it would make a lot more sense to be able to give mass orders, in case I wanted to, you know, set up identical point defense for each one.

2. Is there something to point defense systems I'm missing? I've tried to use the Combat Overview screen to set my ...

god damnit I just realized you have to set weapons to the fire controls for the fire controls to do anything with them
and oh, there's copy assigned orders and copy targets

thanks for your help guys



Pictured above: my arse getting kicked in as I attempt to flee the system. I discovered a decently sized fleet not too far into the alpha centauri system, however, with my dumb beam ships only topping out at 2000 km/s I ditched the efforts in attacking the 6000 km/s ships

Even with (I think) appropriately assigning the fire controls my ships didn't seem to put up much of a fight at all against the incoming missiles. I did only have Twin 12cm C4 Near Ultraviolet Laser Turrets for point defense, so would I be correct in assuming that the poor defense was due to their tracking speed only going up to 10,000 km/s, while their missiles were traveling at 30,000 km/s? In the attempts one of the poor ships made it did say it had a 33% chance of hitting, so that seems about right. I really want to show these dudes what's what.

70+ war dogs--
Kills FPS AND goblins!

When my kobold architect/expedition leader has went berserk due to a single sturgeon killing off all of his friends. He waits in the lower cavern, carved out for the meeting hall after cornering two others and beating them to death. He leers from the behind the sandy staircase, ready to pounce on anyone decides to go down there for idling. Another is taken by surprise, becoming victim to his violent and bloody building-design-skills. Another. He begins to wait at the bottom of the staircase in seething rage, just waiting for a glimpse of another.
A weaver decides to go take a nap, walking down the hallway to the staircase, and suddenly a kobold who he once knew as a friend lept at him, fiercely beating him with a fresh kobold arm with.
He leaves the corpse and waits for others to massacre. I notice I am starting to enjoy this.
A stoneworker and a clothier trot down the hallway together, disregarding the corpse, and of course, get attacked by the crazed kobold. They both run out into the forest outside being chased, calmly conversing over who should take over as expedition leader. The stoneworker takes the duty and a turn to the left, ditching the clothier. Eventually, a human caravan comes by, and watche as the kobold is chased in circles around the forest. The architect finally catches up to the clothier, and beats him senseless by the river, as the humans linger nearby behind the trees, watching. The killer collapses due to over-exhaustion, and the victim to pain. Eventually I just decide to send the stoneworker to kill the lunatic and perhaps save the severely mangled heap of flesh. He does, although, alas, the victim dies due to blood loss right after, in front of the stoneworker: the last kobold standing. He then abandons the camp.

I know it wasn't the bloodiest massacre in DF by far, but I thought it was hilarious, it being my first experience with Kobold Camp.

62. Have you EVER heard of a name like Slaves to Armok: God of Blood, Chapter II Dwarf Fortress? No. You have not.
63. Too many elf corpses littering the lava-singed and blood-stained front lawn of your fortress? IMPOSSIBLE. LEAVE THEM THERE.
64. Feeling the elf corpses are undeserving of staying there? Bridge catapult.
65. Complaining about an arrow to the knee? How about an arrow piercing your heart and left lung, leaving you to die of heavy blood-loss and suffocation at the same time.
66. RIP TEETH OUT AND GOUGE THE EYES OF YOUR FOES WITH THEM.

My first megabeast had just showed up. A Titan 'twas she. I stationed 10 marksdwarfs behind the fortifications of my tower/fortress, who shot at the Titan as she ran past the tower. The shower of arrows missed as I realized the Titan was chasing a hunter of mine. The Titan struck him down, only seconds after a baby boy was born. The ranger's name? Rovod Sosadvucar. My marksdwarfs then chased the Titan, acquiring vengeance for their lost friend, ventilating the Titan to the point where she hit the ground with an earth-shattering thud.

The baby boy's name is now Minkot Sosadvucar the Great.