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Wow.  I left this thread and came back later and there was a whole another page!

By the way, this is the thing I love about Dwarf fortress- People give honest criticism and ideas and aren't assholes about it.  Thanks guys.  Best community ever.

Perhaps another thought.

Maybe you could make craftsdwarves bottle up bins and turn them into trade bins, removing the tracking from all the individual items and just adding all the cost to the bin.

I'd like it too.  I don't see why it matters what the stuff is, inside there, or what stockpile its in.  Once its in a bin, its preserved.  No need to add that confusing prefix to the bins name, which in the end appears to hide the bin quality from sight.  I've sold lotsa exceptional bins, unknowingly.  Have you?

Solution:  Don't use bins and barrels.  Only use them for factories, like the OP suggested.  It would remove confusing, from early game stockpiles where its annoying not seeing just how many leather hides you have because, that anal dwarf stuffed em all in a hamper, out of sight.  I never know when to build my leather trade, because of bins, hiding the goods from me.  Get rid of them, til stations advance into factories.   

Or postpone the entire container trade, until the Caravan fix arrives.  Dunno.  I really dislike losing exceptional bins, because I can't read them plainly and clearly in the Depot screen.  I have been using v to view them, and then look at the bins price, to determine its quality, but thats too much re-engineering for my simple mind to handle.

Sincerely,
Knutor

Well, in the Shannara books, the Dwarfs were a superpower and humans a 3rd world race.  After the post apocalyptic fall of mankind, which stole man's compounded technological achievements, the Trolls and Gnomes took over.  Only the Dwarfs and the Elfs were able to resist their reign, and only when combined with the Druids.  Mankind would have gone extinct in Shannara's world without the aid of Dwarfs.

Why should it be any more different for dwarves?

Its different for Dwarfs because they are subterranean by nature.  In Shannara, they mutated from mankind, as a result of going down underground, to avoid the nukes and what not.  They evolved stubby legs to traverse vertically better, and increased eye capacity to see in pitch black.  As denizens of the earth, they were forced to develop the ability to do more with less.  This made them fierce battlefield tacticians and potent adversaries.  But in Shannara, the true power of the Dwarf was Hunting.  There was no more skillful hunters in the Shannara world than a Dwarf.  His low frame and earthy smell cloaked him from most predators, allowing almost invisible passage through areas other races disturbed without even knowing so.  Dwarfs are built for both ambush and the long hunt.

That is just one world of many with Dwarfs.  I don't know if it shines any light on anything.  I imagine mods exist to tweak DF more like certain worlds.  I sorta like the Dwarfs in Discworld.  There aren't many mentions of them, but they are tinkerers and hoarders.  There is magic all over that world tho.  From the center at Unseen University to the edge of its flat world as the four elephants spray back up water, into its oceans.  To the twinkle in the world turtle's eye.

I used to like Middle Earth, and Moria, until the MMO ruined my impression of the book's verbal imagery.  Give me fantasy over reality any day of the week. 

Sincerely,
Knutor

It certainly would improve the variety and randomness of the game, that is for certain.  I'm for anything that makes consecutive games different. *thumbsup*  It would be nice to breed our own work beast for when we can send out our caravan to other Civies, someday.  With the penultimate being one that flies, faster and safer than the mechanics unsafe, hydrocopter.  Like a gryphon, in the fantasy I read, they hold three, 1 saddle and 2 baskets.  Ha!  I'm all for combining things as long as the results are relatively known fantasy creatures and not science horrors, like geeps or peppermint pussies that purr and pounce, yet still generate miasma like a trash compactor out their bilge port.

Sincerely,
Knutor

I can see blunt facial blows knocking out a teeth becoming a terminal illness in this thread.

Jyhad CCG was tons of fun, in group play.  I played that in the trailerpark late into the night, many nights.  We used to play it over IRC and email.  They ruined it with that kid friendly name.  Vampire the Masquerade.  Bleh!  No matter how ya dress up a vampire, its not kid friendly.  That was a dumb decision.

I remember taking my nephew to see Nemo, and the preview for Pirates of Caribbean came on the screen.  And the moon came out and it turned the pirates into skeletons.  He pissed himself.  Ya can't make undead kid friendly.  Its like making chocolate and ciggies healthy.  Teenager content possibly, but not for the kiddies. White Wolf shot themselves with that move.

I still have some cards, for their artwork.  The good old days when a deck of cards was under 10 bucks.

Sincerely,
Knutor

Depends on the mood and craftsman.  I would expect to see a legendary weapon smith, whilst in an evil mood, remove depot guards, one by one, and then slink off with a steel bar, without ever leaving the ninja strike position.

I'm talking about fortress mode...

I rarely play adventure mode...

Same here.  I'd probably play adventure mode more often, if I was able to play on the enemy side against an operational fortress, one I made in fortress mode.  I gave adventure mode thirty minutes; I couldn't get over a river, and gave it up.  If I could load in as a troll, with say six friendlies on the fringe of my old fortress, with them covering me with their blowguns. Playing as a creep on the sieges could be fun.

I hope toad respects stomach acid, when 'large' creatures are put into the game. 

A three story monster has enough acid in their enormous stomach to fill a 1x1 block.  This when released should be capable of melting a 3x3 greenish gooie column dozens of levels deep from its splash point, before its potency is diminished.  Maybe have that shortened if its diluted by a cavern pool.  That's ignoring the considerable crater formed at that disembowlment square. 

This would pose a hurdle to code, as it bucks the trend of leaving rock after mining.  Acid mining leaves only a foul stench in the air.  Size has its power and a sizable digestive system should be respected.

Sincerely,
Knutor