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The rest of the world does not believe that Israel is oppressive and awful. It is a complicated issue, and different groups have different perspectives on it. It is not a black and white issue. My housemate is a Greek Orthodox Christian Palestinian, and even she isn't entirely sure she wants to see Israel cast aside because that would give power to Hamas.

(She does, however, have a permanent, ingrained hatred of both Jews and Muslims)

Quote from: Ampersand on March 23, 2010, 02:31:22 am

Sometimes I get dream vertigo and bolt upright and awake, because I feel like I'm falling off a cliff.

Anyway, any kind of prolonged discomfort can do odd things to the brain. Ensure that you do not drink much of anything before bed, and ensure that you have completely... Evacuated, before going to sleep.

I think I read somewhere that the vertigo feeling is caused when your muscles relax while you're still in a lucid state. You feel vertigo, which causes you to tense up and wake.

Anyway, not that uncommon. I've had that feeling a fair few times.

I have a similar feeling, except that I actually seem to be falling and hit the bed with a nice 'thud'. I've heard similar things about this, but it was indicated to me that it's a muscle spasming/sudden tension-and-release that causes the entire body to flop upward, waking you up in time for you to realize you're falling down.

It ended with a rainy night, tear drops pattering down on their faces as they stared eachother down from across the street. Redskull made the first move, his passion too much for him. His foe had barely gripped the butt of his own weapon when the first bullet struck him in the heart. He staggered back, but pulled the gun from its holster anyway, and his icy glare tore open Redskull's mind with, even before the bullet could, moments after his foe grunted:

"Won't do you any good: You already broke my heart."

The two of them lay in the street for the rest of the night, their cold bodies soaked by morning, one with a hole on each side of his head, the other clutching his chest and giving a stiff, eternal smile.

I can't think of any idea worse than alienating your link into the region of the world you most like to fight wars against.

The US shouldn't have interfered to begin with. Muslims and Jews got along perfectly well for a very long time, even fighting against the Christians together during the Crusades. Then the West really needed somewhere to put all their Jews, so they messed everything up.

Calling for interference isn't really an idea conducive to bringing a people closer together. Especially since the problem is filled with legal things. What are they going to do, roll over the Gulf with tanks and demand everybody immediately turn to Communism?

If you guys would read the links provided in my last post, you could have answered all the questions you just asked and theories you proposed.

As it stands, Unobtainium is a vital material for interstellar commerce. I do not understand why my post was ignored for the sake of validating this "Movie can't, in any way, be about oil" argument. Some of the questions being asked here don't even make sense: If Unobtainium is needed for space travel, how do people get the Unobtainium and bring it back? Logic wins the day!

Sure, if you think that oil is collected on a horse and buggy.

Quote from: Flaede on March 24, 2010, 02:51:40 pm

Quote from: Micro102 on March 24, 2010, 12:27:28 pm

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- The Catholic Church stands by the idea that if you never got the chance to hear about God, you don't go to Hell.

Then why do they continue to teach people about it? 

Because (last I heard) the catch is you don't get to go to heaven, either.

Where, then, do you go, now that limbo doesn't exist again?

You go here.

There is so much racism in this thread.

Also, if you want to pretend that the Iraq War was started for oil, start a new thread.

This is an immature response. Artists insert their own worldview into their work. Avatar could be about the Iraq War and oil. Disagreeing with a statement the artist is making does not prevent the artist from making it.

If you need some sort of arrogant, condescending response to your post (which is what I see every time you reply to any of my own), you may read this one:

See: Nazi Film Industry.


Now, let me go into more detail about why I connected Avatar to the War in the Middle East:

The antagonists of this film are soldiers. Regular, run-of-the-mill soldiers, who aren't even evil out of nature. Even their leader is on a traditional revenge mission, which is a role usually reserved for the primary protagonists of action films.

But they're our soldiers. They're modeled completely around US Military arch-types. And they're in a far off place, fighting a war against forces which are vastly inferior in technology, but who fight to the death for their land nonetheless.

When we're rooting for the Na'Vi to kill the soldiers, we're rooting for them to defeat people who are the same as the ones fighting in the Middle East right now. We are rooting for the USA to lose the Iraq War.

Now, before we make any assumptions on the nature of Unobtainium, let's just look up what it is.

Wikipedia Article

I can't find any specific indication of what exactly Unobtainium does in Avatar, but the main plot point is that it is an extremely valuable good. Gold and Oil are also both very valuable goods.

The question I asked about Unobtainium is why it is valuable. It does not seem particularly attractive to the eye. In fact, it looks like any other chunk of rock.


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Avatar Wikia Explanation

Without Unobtanium, interstellar commerce on this scale would not be possible. Unobtanium is not only the key to Earth’s energy needs in the 22nd century, but it is the enabler of interstellar travel and the establishment of a truly spacefaring civilization