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Then they tell me roguelikes are boring while they entertain themselves with  stories about how they try to launch a warthog 30 feet into the air for four hours to get an achievement or something.

To be fair, this is what we do in Dwarf Fortress, we just don't get any achievement for it.

Please lay out the definition again so that everybody is clear.

Because the definition of Atheism being put forward is 'the rejection of established deities' or even 'the rejection of people who believe in established deities' as a way of loop-holing the idea of Atheism being a religion (the latter is called prejudice, incidentally, and is bad).

I will say again: Rejecting the existence of something and not believing in it is the same thing.

I would be more likely to be labelled as a Deist or a Pantheist, both of which are religions.

EDIT: Your definition of God is a bit off. I might believe in ghosts, but not believe they created the universe, for instance. This is just me being nitpicky, though.

I also deny the existence of established deities, but I am not an atheist.

How many times have you guys played through this game? There are more than just a few choices and outcomes you make in Dragon Age.

Please keep gender profiling out of any discussion about this game. I know plenty of women who play Dragon Age, and there are romantic options available to female characters, meaning it is not just a wankfest for males.

I found the storyline to be very compelling. What was the issue you guys had with it? 'It's a generic fantasy trope!' is not a valid answer for a game with in depth character interaction and fully fleshed background history, in my opinion. Literary and Theatrical Criticism needs to go deeper than that.

EDIT: For example, West Side Story is generally considered a masterpiece of contemporary theatre. But it's just Romeo and Juliet in a 1950s setting. Basic romance-tragedy trope, yawn, right? No, it's an amazing musical that everybody should watch.

Shakespeare, in turn, took his inspiration from older sources.

Most Fantasy draws from mythology from varying cultures, anyways. There's even a scene in the Bible where King David abandons his greatest general to die by pulling back and not reinforcing him so he can steal his wife.

You seem to be supporting Atheism being a religion pretty strongly in most of your posts without realizing (enough so that I thought this was what you were saying to begin with). Would you care to explain what sorts of beliefs about the creation, nature, and purpose of the universe one Atheist might have that differs from what another Atheist believes?

EDIT: And a denial of other religious beliefs is the same thing as believing in the non-existence of a deity, but said in a different way. Atheists have the belief that there is no higher being that created the universe, no overlying purpose, and the nature of the universe is rooted in scientific fact. Agree/Disagree?