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I like how, in the 'History' tab, the authour forgot what gender the psychiatrist was halfway through.

Nobody is saying that Denmark is racist. It is being said that you are racist. This is not necessarily meant to belittle you. You can be a racist without realizing it. Maybe by realizing that Denmark's problems aren't caused by people who want to make a life for themselves there, you'll be able to help solve Denmark's problems.

I'll start with your first sentence. Everybody has a story about their least favourite ethnic minority where a member of that minority decries the sins of the rest of their minority. There are a number of reasons that a person might do this. It might even be a true story. This is not valid evidence that this is the norm, however, nor has it been analyzed thoroughly. Do these women have husbands who work (don't reply with "No! Of course not!" unless you actually know)? Islam is far from the only culture where gender roles are still enforced via ridicule.

I'll assume all your sources are accurate, unless somebody who speaks Danish tells me otherwise. Unfortunately, your description of them coupled with your telling me I can't possibly understand because I live across the Atlantic doesn't hold water for me. Canada has grown due to immigration nearly 25% in the past quarter of a century. We get roughly 250,000 new immigrants each year. 1 in every 120 people in this country moved here this year. Before this, our 300 year history of immigration was largely made up of Europeans from both East and West, and immigrants from different parts of Europe moved to different parts of Canada (Eastern Europeans who arrived in the early 20th century, for example, were pushed to Western Canada and the Prairies to deal with the labour shortage there at the time). This was a homogenized nation which, despite being known internationally as being multicultural, has a xenophobic history and has only really opened its doors recently (and not even to the extent people think - many of our nation-born citizens could not pass the citizenship test. Not because they're stupid, but because the test is stiflingly difficult). Part of the reason Canada's immigration rate is so high is because it opens its arms to a large number of refugees. Theoretically, Canada should be a burning, bubbling, boiling cesspool of crime, yet there are no studies which indicate that it is.

People do try to blame Canada's problems on immigrants, and the fashionable target in Southwest Ontario is Asians. Why? Because a lot of Asians have moved here. I imagine the reason Arabs seem to be a target in Denmark is because there are a lot of them immigrating there.


You also pointed out that "67%" of the immigrants to Denmark are "non-western". This figure does, indeed, shock me. Because it is so low. People generally immigrate out of places that are no longer favorable and go towards the power centres of the world, such as Western Europe and North America. It is less common for them to do the opposite. I would think it is also uncommon for the wealthy in Western society to immigrate to a place where they will be taxed more than if they stayed where they were.

My first guess as to why 33% of your immigrants are from the West would be that there are some sort of job openings there. Is Denmark opening its doors to foreign nationals seeking work?

He bought a bunch of planes so he could shoot catapulted syrup out of the sky. Also, his party would much prefer if we not get more territory, because government needs to be as small and hands-off as possible (except for Quebec, which needs to be chained up with a tight leash).

Do yourselves a favor, and drop him a 300 gallon vat of Maple Syrup now and save yourself the anguish while you can. Did I mention we can build those vats for you, or milk the trees? We got lots of workers....

We can't, he'll only answer five questions a day from behind a barricade, because he's gotten it in his head, somehow, that we're going to kill him. Or he's just really afraid of getting pied, like Cretien.

Did you just tell me that going to your country and getting a job is not the ideal way for things to work?

I'm going to have to ask you to start providing documentation indicating both that Denmark is beginning to fall apart and that the majority of immigrants to Denmark are Muslims at this point, because a reasoned discussion where both of us are able to relate our opinions honestly and without emotional bias is out of reach.

Also, if you are 'conceding', don't keep coming back. Using the phrase "It is very late, and I don't want to discuss it any more because I am tired, so let's leave it at that" would work fine if we were talking face to face over a cup of tea. Unfortunately, we're on an online forum, so concluding each statement with "Let's not talk about this anymore" without actually backing out is a futile exercise in getting the last word and silencing those who disagree with you. This will still be here when you wake up in the morning. Others will have added to it.

I am offended that the vote for people who don't have any problems with modern games implies that they have no brains

It's even worse, now, I'd say. I'm willing to let a person I disagree with call me stupid because of our disagreement. It irks me somewhat more to either agree with the OP or not vote at all.

At least Soulwynd hasn't tried pulling the results of this thread as evidence of anything yet.

I live in Canada.

Zombat isn't right at all.

I also live in an area where there are ethnic minorities.

The only people complaining or taking 'sides' are angry individuals who turn to other cultures as the source of their problems. I have stated in other threads before that I look everybody in the eye as I walk past them in the street. I am as white as it gets. Black people, Arabic people, Asian people, and Aboriginal people do not glower at me or act negatively towards me any more than the Caucasians do. I have maybe one or two bad experiences with a stranger of any race every few months. I've observed that the children act the same way no matter how long their father grows their beard, the capacity for intellectualism is the same no matter how dark their skin, and the capacity for being a likable person is the same no matter how much of their childhood was spent in another country.

I've also lived in the Maritimes, where one major city has less than two dozen Asians registered in the census, and Arabs are nowhere to be seen. Instead of hating on other races, which barely exist (except for Aboriginals, who do indeed receive prejudice), bigots turn to other denominations of Christianity to direct their anger.

I won't pretend that non-whites are able to be bigoted and racist, because they certainly can be, and the rate is just as high, but if you're intent on not being a savage barbarian, the best way to do it is to not be a savage barbarian.