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Is the idea behind Dwarf Therapist even compatible with the new labor system? Or is it too early to know yet?
That's something I'm kinda worried about, that the changes to way labors work might mean Dwarf Therapist might not be able to do what it's supposed to do anymore

That's an insanely large reservoir. If my rough calculations are right, digging it in stone would take a dozen legendary miners about a century to dig it out(assuming 20 tiles per day mined, with half of the miners time spent actually mining), and it would also generate over a million boulders, which would kill your FPS.

Truth be told I just picked a big number, but the top dozen and a half or so layers I do plan to hollow out and fill with water, it's a lot more than I need I'll admit but I want either A) a stupid amount of pressure to fling items and dwarves around or B) my computer to crash as a result of that lever pull

Stopping to actually think about it instead of pulling numbers out of my ass, it's realistically going to be more on the order of ~240x~160x18-20

Aditionally it's the final stage of my megaproject, I'm already having everyone who's not already legendary AND working on something at the moment dig in cycles to train them up, I fully expect most of the fort to be at or near legendary in mining by the time I get there.

You'd also need at least an 11*11 size FPS draining embark, and the 64 bit version to fit the game in memory.

I like to build spread out and find anything smaller than a 5x5 embark restricting
My FPS usually ends up really really shit, but I've learned to live with it

1. That won't work, because the U bend effect means one water level is lost to the bend. If the falling water had been standing water it would exert sufficient pressure to push the water up to the X. However, if there's nowhere for the water to go, pouring water down there will create pressure to get the water to move through the U.
If the water comes in from the side, i.e. flows on top of the water to the left side (or possibly on top of a floor in between with a hole down below the |) it will not push up into Y. If you drop it from above the | it will push up into Y when | is full and the water accumulates on top of that (the "Side" level).

Okay, did a bit of experimentation on a smaller scale, and while you're correct that one level would be lost to the bend, it seems the left side has to fully fill up before it will flow through the bend, which for practical applications is exactly what I wanted

2. Falling water does not exert a pressure, it's done by water piling up (which is close to the same thing). The question is a bit imprecise, so there are three answers.
a. If you carved a fortification at the same level as the "river" that "river" would drain through the fortification, and so your falling water would end up trying to fill up that draining river.

a was the scenario I meant, and it looks like a river source tile output water slightly slower than it drains off the map so unless the water output from an aquifer is higher (or I end up going with multiple waterfalls and misjudge the rate it drains off the map) I will probably have to apply the lesson from above and use a U-bend to fill up the "river" save for the very end

You're not doing the the dwarven way: You should first flood your fortress by accident and THEN as what you should have considered

Hey now, I can't flood it YET, even ignoring practical applications like there still being ~15 z-levels of the fortress to carve out before I'll even hit the aquifer that'll feed the river or how I currently lack a Monarch, the king/queen's throne room, or the planned 500x500x20 tile reservoir held back by a pair of artifact floodgates right behind the royal throne/royal lever that will wash said Monarch out of said throne room at the top of the 40 z-level central common area, the simple fact of the matter is I have to finish the last 2 z-levels of the external wall guarding the surface village of non-dwarves and those of ...undesirable/elf-like preferences which is located LOWER than the rest of the fortress thanks to the massive valley clift the fortress is built into, otherwise when the gates are raised the the fortress flooded, the water level in said village won't rise high enough to prevent survivors in the highest buildings.

Hmm... come to think of it I need to include something that will prevent the water from flowing over the village wall, otherwise we might have people washed out, does the thing about water not keeping pressure when flowing through diagonals hold true with floodgates/raised drawbridges?

And the fisherdwarf may be safe on his dock, will have to set that and the mine entrance up to collapse (in case there's any miners in the caverns where it'll be "Safe"), not sure what to do about he woodcutter, herbalist, or hunter though, unless I just make sure they're in the village when the lever is pulled

There's a feature to restrict workshops to take only things in burrow. This can be accidentally enabled with second (w), though it can be very useful feature. Give due consideration to moody dwarves.

That was not something I knew about, and may make what I have planned a lot easier if I just limit workshops to their own burrow and useful dwarves to a generic "Inside" burrow

Yea, 1 for each dwarf, yay, manual.  lol thanks

Minor correction cause I think I missread your post, but dwarves WILL claim unclaimed rooms, not sure how long/when but they will eventually (or at least would in previous versions, I tend to manually assign rooms now whenever I have a job for a dwarf

New to the forum and still new to the game.  I have been attempting to learn off and on for years but now finally think I have a grip on things...ish.  My fort survives, I am smelting iron weapons (need more anvils but I know how to make them) got lots of food and drink.  (Also a whole butt load of shells from fishing)  Also I figured out trading and how that works so yay to me!  However there are a few things I want to ask.

Is there any way to make a lot of bedrooms fast or does each one need to be manual?  I made the rooms and thought I set them up as free to claim but didnt do it right so now I have 100 bedrooms to label as free to claim.  Everything is built and placed, just not set for specific dwarves. 

There's an option to make a bedroom a dormitory, making it a room (ideally that you've placed multiple beds in) that any dwarf can stop by and sleep in
If you mean a bedroom for each dwarf? Nope, the manual way is the only way

How deep does a moat need to be?  Max depth of 7 or would 2 or 3 work fine?  Will it drain off map if I put it right to the edge?

Depth isn't important (except for falling damage and that needs to be something on the order of ~35 z levels to be reliably kill goblins), width and an overhang is important, invaders can climb and leap now so you're going to want a floor tile overhanging the pit preventing things from climbing up (and it has to be a floor, walls will let them climb over, I don't think a two tile overhang have that issue) also it should be at least 3 tiles wide to keep invaders from leaping across (wider is better but I don't think non megabeasts will make the jump).

And yes, water will drain off the edge though you can't dig edge tiles (you can smooth then carve into fortifications which will let water drain though)

Do logs rot outside? Can I cut down all the trees on the map without worry?  I understand hauling and storage in my fort doesnt want to get bogged down but I mean other than that.  Will trees grow back faster if there are none to compete for space?

No, logs don't rot.
Yes you can cut them all down
No, I don't think space affects tree growth

Someone was found dead drained of blood, do I have a vampire?

Yes, happy hunting

Other than growing subterranean crops, anything else NEED to be underground?  If I wanted to build a castle, should I carve it out of a mountain or build it free in the open?  Aside from labor involved. If I make a castle, should it be in the middle of a map or right in the corner against the edge?

You don't NEED things underground, it's a lot easier though
I prefer to carve things out, think it looks nicer (and I'll admit to using DFhack's tiletypes to fix any mistakes) not to mention you'll be making a LOT of bricks (or heaven forbid hauling tons of stone) if you build it
And unless you KNOW invaders will only come from one direction (goblins usually will, megabeasts will come from wherever), building it in the middle (or at least the only entrance in the middle) is my advice

I have a lost artifact, how did someone loose it? (Its a scroll)  I havent been able to find a way to trade artifacts since they are so valuable, not that I really needed too but I want to know if I can.
 

You can't trade them and I don't think artifacts can be atom smashed, they might be loseable in the magma sea but odds are it was stolen by a goblin or a kobold, guard your stuff better

Ive got a lot of coke laying about, will it get stored in bins eventually?  I noticed some bins for iron and copper getting set but the coke is filling my stockpiles with iron and copper lingering around as well.

Yes, coke are bars, stockpiled under bars: other materials
You may just be lacking stockpile space, bins, and/or haulers

I told my military squad to equip metal armor but they are leaving iron and copper stuff on the ground without wearing any armor themselves, am I missing something with the game logic?

There are tons of guides to help with military given how confusing it is, but did you ever actually schedule them to be active so they'll go on duty and get suited up?

Huh, that gives me ideas on how to make work orders check only things of X quality
Thanks

So I've had some scattered missing animals and a single missing dwarf. Most of the missing animals were eventually accounted for, dwarf is still missing. What I'm confused about is the latest missing animal, it was a yak pet which means it should be somewhere within view from following its owner yet somehow it went missing. Thoughts?

Odds are it got stuck somewhere and starved to death, where does the owner usually hang out?



On an unrelated note, anyone have a clue what the the "Nearby" trait means in the work order conditions