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Originally posted by Deon:
<STRONG>Or just switch the outer refuse hauling off.</STRONG>

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That works for goblin corpses, but not for antmen corpses. Their cave is also inside..

First posted this as a bug report. But now I'm starting to believe it is actually a feature. My fort now has 3 mayors. The original leader, and two newly elected.. That's right.. ELECTED. So I suppose it's perfectly normal nowadays for the dwarves to have some form of democracy. The old mayors keep their title however, this should not be so. For the rest, you can assign them jobs as normal and I believe only the new mayor has demands and mandates..(however I noticed an old export-ban still being listed with the old mayors' unit info). I let the old ones keep their rooms and give the new mayor fresh rooms but I don't know if the old mayors still require rooms. I suppose not if it is meant as a democratic feature.
So the question: Toady, is it a bug or a feature?
If it is a feature, dwarven society really is something: starting out a despotism (outpost leader), then going to democracy (mayor) and after that falling back to despotism (monarch despot king ordering dwarves to their deaths). Which brings up another question: is there still a king?

Diplomats can't handle stairs on their way back (after meeting with your Mayor). Maybe it has been fixed in 33b. Dunno haven't checked all devnotes yet.
If teleport.exe works with this version you can zap him to ground level.
Or prevent him from going up or down stairs by drafting you Mayor into the military the moment the diplomat arrives and stationing him above ground.

Did you already make Fine and Trifle pewter? I'm not sure, but I believe Lay pewter is made from Trifle pewter

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Originally posted by malkmus:
<STRONG>i think the main problem is, that newly drafted dwarves spar with your well trained champions. and i don't know a way to avoid this. </STRONG>

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I think you're on the right track there. My military almost never has any sparring accidents, while they are at least proficient now in ALL weapons. I did take care to switch my more experienced dwarves to crossbowtraining while n00bs were sparring. I always start training with wrestling skills. A high wrestling skill prevents a lot of injuries I believe. Most of the time my n00bs only wear leather. Only then, when they get weapon training, will I give them decent armor and shields. (at least iron)
My more experienced soldiers are not allowed to spar with dwarves who don't have at least competent wrestler, armor and shield skill.
The order of training I usually use is wrestler>>hammerdwarf>>swordsdwarf>>hammerdwarf>>axedwarf>>speardwarf.
Spears very much as the last training to prevent pierced lungs. (by the time my dwarves get to speartraining, they are superdwarvenly tough and have at least achieved master skill in armor and shield use. In between trainings I switch to crossbowtraining. And indeed I didn't use steel weapons for training. Only iron. (Lack of silver) Silver is indeed best, 50% damage, like wood.

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Originally posted by Slappy Moose:
<STRONG>I found that making babies take a year to age into kids, and a year to age into adults works because it means I have a self stabilized fortress, that doesn't need immigrants to grow.

But yeah, I don't really like children. Pretty much useless.</STRONG>

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Babies take one year to become a child.
Children take 12 more years to become adults, though.
I think one of your immigrant children reached adulthood and you mistook him for a native born child. Immigrant children arrive with unknown age.

Did you set the shooting direction right in your archery ranges?