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Play With Your Buddies / Re: Dominions 5 Round 06 - The end
« on: November 17, 2022, 06:28:53 pm »
And here are my graphs:

Spoiler: Provinces (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Forts (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Income (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Gem Income (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Research (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Dominion (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Army Size (click to show/hide)

End gem income was 125; would have been 134 next turn.

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: Dominions 5 Round 06 - The end
« on: November 17, 2022, 06:13:35 pm »
Interacting with Azthor was the worst expierence i ever had in and out game in bay12, otherwise and dominion.

You went way beyond anything rational.

The feeling is mutual then. Except I had the pay off of burying you three feet under for my effort, and you had none but impotent frustration.

Edit: credit where it is due, though, you did set me back so much that I was basically aiming for a draw instead of a victory, after our war.

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: Dominions 5 Round 06 - The end
« on: November 17, 2022, 12:11:43 pm »
I did not have enough armies to throne rush and defend at the same time.

I agree, and your main battle units' bad overland movement was probably your greatest disadvantage, though you did pointedly/notably offset it a bit by focusing on the peaks with your bless.

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: Dominions 5 Round 06 - The end
« on: November 17, 2022, 10:51:06 am »
No worries. You would have been in range of taking a few more thrones and be closer at least, even if they hadn't been sat on yet. The cave throne and the east and southern thrones of Yomi for example; I don't know how many points that is but it would have been pretty close I think. If you did stick to the split whatever you didn't get plus the bear tribe throne I had were all right on your border, you probably could have gatewayed to the most dangerous one and move local armies to take the others without too much difficulty judging from your death throes, and sit on them pretty quickly was my thinking when I looked at the thrones graph when it looked to be turning into a dogpile on you.

I believe Kailasa had some ~6 points, and I thought they were entertaining a throne rush for a moment, as a desperate last gambit.

That was shortly before my actual army reached the front and threatened the first throne; one of the reasons I did not try and gem burn in that storming.

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: Dominions 5 Round 06 - The end
« on: November 15, 2022, 11:46:50 am »
I will try and share Fomoria's funny looking graphics soon.

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: Dominions 5 Round 06 - The end is nigh?
« on: November 13, 2022, 01:56:19 pm »
I did not get any serious offer from someone willing to sub Fomoria, but I am doing somewhat better and think I might be able to continue by the time the current turn expires, if most of you want to.

That said, attacking Agartha will still be particularly (emotionally) draining on me, and I would rather call the game here, if at all possible.

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-snip-

This message has served its purpose.

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Hello again, everyone.

Changing circumstances IRL - which I do not want to get into - mean I am going to wind down my involvement with Dominions. I do not want to just dump an AI nation on your borders without forewarning, but I plan to go AI in roughly three turns. In the meantime, I am cancelling all my diplomatic pacts and formally inviting you to attack me. In order to minimize how much of an unfair advantage this gives to certain players, I will try and defend myself some, though I really don't plan to spend much time on my turns.

I'm also going to check this forum and my PMs less and less often.

If anyone wants some or part of my stuff (items, gems, etc.), send me in-game messages and make your case; but I am planning to mostly avoid doing a death basket, again, because I don't want to upset the game state too much.

He put me in an awkward spot by treating the matter like that, but the truth is said circumstances derive off something else online, and affect me as well, hence my stale turn.

On which note I apologize, but also find myself unable to continue the game, though I will try to look for a substitute first, if you all mean to play to the end.

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Not a terribly nice thing to say, imo.

On the diplomacy part: approaching things in a secretive and noncommital way might not bind you much, but it also comes with a slew of drawbacks - particularly when someone is doing the opposite work and creating large chains of relationships to start crossing information.

As for the saltiness bit, yes, I admit that was a little mean and apologize for the way I put it, but I do stand by the actual point proper: I don't think a perspective where I was the greater threat makes any sense/it feels like resentment speaking, rather than reason.

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Yes and no. Not every nation is equally threatening to every other nation. Forex, Fomoria is - all things equal - much more of an existential threat to R'lyeh than Kailasa is, right up until Kailasa hits a point when it can spam summoned SCs. Kailasa argued as much, at length. Ofc, the problem is that regardless of fundamental structural imbalances, all other things were very much not equal, and game-specific circumstances overrode generic home truths.

[And in fairness to Kailasa, they couldn't have the same perspective on individual circumstances w/in the game as the nations they tried to persuade, and had to rely more on generalities.]

That lack of perspective is, however, a consequence of their style of diplomacy. And if we are entirely honest, the "you should all have known better!" is saltiness speaking.

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Meh. I blame the other players for not seeing you as the bigger threat. And I believe I tried arranging a gank on everyone at one point or another. That I did not get any concrete response from any direction spelled the future situation for me pretty clearly.

Now, that is something of a precarious statement, coming from someone who beat a main army from virtually every other player in the game with few losses, or who claims to have tried to gank virtually every other player at some point, isn't it?

Besides, I was backward in every regard conceivable, in the midgame.

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Here is the diplomatic/strategic scoop:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Eh, I don't know what insight you're looking for. We didn't get to fight all that much, but you did all the right things, as far as I can tell.

I believe, in the case of Fomoria (...) did the raids manage to feel overwhelming, the "counter raids" too risky, and the main army proper hard to tackle head on?

By “counter raids” I refer to the response to splitting up to deal with the raids.

For instance, I felt my tempo was a bit off across different parts of the engagement, even though it did the job; ie. the main army had a bit too large a delay to the front.

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Honestly, I didn't even change any orders in that army before sending it out. Just refilled whatever gems I could find and figured if I could get to the capital I'd burn the fort there. If not for the ghouls at Debiritha, I'd have burned that fort too - fort arson was my favourite pastime as of late.

Excellent preparation on your invasion. Full props there.

Am working on a longer post, but seeing as this is my first "real competitive MP game of Dominions", how my first war was more of a grounded tug-o-war, and how different fighting AIs is (...) how would you say your side of the war felt like, militarily, specifically?

Suffice to say I was relying on a lot of second hand information, hypothesis and arena testing, all the way down to part of a bless that only paid off now.

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Oh, good. Everyone's dead. I'm out.



I may have omitted I thought I could take you on in a pitched battle, but had to wear you down enough that the return damage would be acceptable.

I figured you were going AI or max aggressiveness; that you were likely to move into Ossuary, if so, due to fort arrangement.

And if not, it was the most mobile position for me to threaten the forts from.

Since I basically knew the exact details of what you could bring into the fight by now, and what you had been consistently neglecting to protect from, it went  about as expected.

That sure did not stop it from being tense, though.

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