Bay 12 Games Forum

I don't know. I've literally never seen it in action.

10+DRN AP on passing. I think AP doesn't affect the DRN on Protection, so 4 damage on average vs a 16 Protection unit.

It'd instakill 50% of all longdead touching it and heavily maim the rest, though, comparatively.

Yeah, those are the veterans. Lost their armour in Yomi, got cursed in Mictlan. Probably survived Fomorian decay. Always marching, always fighting.
The promise was the Art of Hover Farting would heal all those wounds with a Gift of Health, but lately he couldn't spare the time.

Anyway, I'm not sure I have the fortitude to keep being a nuisance. If I can't conjure it by the deadline I'll just set myself to AI.
Those veterans are still kicking, but there's no more cash, and soon no more gems. Attrition is getting out of hand too.

Quote from: Azthor on October 10, 2022, 08:57:35 am

When you feel it will no longer alter any outcome, could you provide some commentary on the war? I am honestly very curious.

Not much to say. I found out while fighting Yomi that I don't really have anything to counter SC and thug spam other than my lumbering armies. Of which I had two and they couldn't be everywhere at once, not even with gateway.
Which basically meant that until I could get to elemental royalty, I would be doomed to fold if you attacked me instead of your other neighbours. And while I did get to conj8 soon after the war started, I figured it's a bit too late, and I might cause more damage by casting the lightning global. So I alchemised the shit of my stocks to get some 90+ in overcasting. But it was still taken down the turn after. I choose to blame R'lyeh. I probably should have summoned a whole lot of gandharvas instead.
Anyway, that's why I've been largely ignoring you - I figured I could cause more lasting damage by countering actual armies with mine, rather than chasing glamorous thugs around. Maybe if I had six more months to prepare, I'd have something.

From a wider perspective, I probably shouldn't have allied with Rus early on. This made my territory snaking and hard to traverse quickly. Hard to defend, with too many neighbours. Had we fought it out, one of us would be out of the game, but the other would end up in a more tenable position.
That the only one commander who could cast/forge anything useful has been my pretender hobbled me greatly throughout the game. Too many things to do, too little time.

I think you've been doing well, tactically, but that the final outcome can only be slow attrition. The war was unfavorable from the onset, in terms of resources/assets, and your bleeding territory in the opening stages aggravated the matter.

Though I think, out of our side, I am the only one biased to fight primarily (rather than secondarily) by resource exhaustion, and the war ended in this situation because you performed outstandingly in pitched battles against everyone who tried it - ai. no one wants to do a large field battle against you.

Concerning WoG, in particular, there was actually a significant amount of alchemizing involved to respond immediately, rather than preemptive pooling - we just banked on the fact that, without most of your territory and with everything in Kaillasa being pearl-hungry, it was a loss you could never make up for.

To illustrate, you got gem-baited heavily at Debrithia before - particularly relative to your current income - but you are in a situation where you must put yourself in a position where you can be gem-baited every time, or risk a sudden wipe - it is not a misplay, but a loss-loss tactical situation emerging from the broader strategic one.

There's half an hour left, and Azthor's turn is still outstanding. I'm adding 6h along with a reminder to procrastinate responsibly.

Thank you for the consideration - I did make it in time, but was checking my commands last minute. Afternoon and evening were very busy, and I only got some information I was waiting on to finish the turn in the afternoon.

BTW, let me know if you guys would want to go back to 48h turns. I no longer suffer from choice paralysis when doing mine, thanks to the limited choices I have left.

I am all for it, though only starting from next turn - and I am okay with it if someone else expresses a preference for keeping it at 72h.

While we're joking about extensions here, I have to congratulate everybody for being exceptionally diligent. 60 turns in and not a single stale or a drop out needing a replacement.

While everyone has admirably kept going without any stale turns or premortem drop outs, I do feel most of us are currently more or less among 'the legions of the damned' in our dilligence.

Long turns paired with tense battles, a slow map, major and sudden losses,  and/or having a really disfavourable position, for most players, makes for willful but not very fun play, I imagine.

Nor is being ganked a fun experience, of course, lest I fail to state the obvious. By all accounts you've been doing remarkably well in the actual fighting, for how many threats you have to respond to simultaneously.

I would like to ask for an extension again - same reasons as last time. But I will live without it, if you don't see this in time.

Is this Monke going down? Maaaybe...
But the answer is yes.
Still, remember what Buddha said in that one movie: cut off Monke's head and Monke still has the power to fling faeces at you.

When you feel it will no longer alter any outcome, could you provide some commentary on the war? I am honestly very curious.

Oh, thank you Jesus Azthor. I'm so procrastinating this turn I can't even, but wasn't going to give in to giving an extension to myself.

You're welcome, my child. May all your endeavors be ever fruitful and delayed, as per the holy scriptures of the Prokrastinator. (Thank you).