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DF Suggestions / Re: Dragonfire: Should it destroy ALL materials?
« on: May 23, 2016, 05:44:29 am »
Quote from: Bumber on May 22, 2016, 09:02:23 am
Are nether-cap buildings vulnerable or not? Loose nether-cap items tend to get destroyed instantly by things (e.g., magma), but will those in buildings drop immediately back to their normal temperature after ignition?

Quote from: Libash_Thunderhead on May 22, 2016, 08:40:48 am
P.S. I thought even wood walls are immune to fire?
Only for now. Solid tiles of drawbridges, too. A raised drawbridge will always be invulnerable from one side, as well as ones a single tile thick in their raise direction.
Quote from: kontako on May 22, 2016, 08:53:30 am
I was thinking this too, does anyone know if the world affected by dragon fire? (walls, terrain)
Only fort residents affect walls/terrain, through jobs.

So you're saying if a dragon comes to my fort petitioning for immigration, I should be suspicious

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DF Suggestions / Re: Dragonfire: Should it destroy ALL materials?
« on: May 22, 2016, 08:53:30 am »
Quote from: Libash_Thunderhead on May 22, 2016, 08:40:48 am
A burning artifact door is worse than a destroyed one, sometimes...

P.S. I thought even wood walls are immune to fire?

Lmao, advice to live by.

I was thinking this too, does anyone know if the world affected by dragon fire? (walls, terrain)

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DF General Discussion / Re: Future of the Fortress
« on: May 12, 2016, 04:35:13 am »
Bit of a random question here, sorry if it's been brought up before:
In the preview for the myth generator you showed that all creation originated from a single primordial entity (Eternal mist, etc), will there be cases where multiple entities (eg Muspell + Niflheim) behave as the universe's progenitor?
Will there be deities with unknown / foreign origins to the main dynasty (eg Vanir to the Aesir)?

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DF Gameplay Questions / Re: Game option to restrict animals inside
« on: May 07, 2016, 01:28:51 am »
Like PatrikLundell (minus the part about the garbage compactor), I usually pen my cats over places I want to keep vermin free (Food stockpile, Dining room, Farms). That way they fulfil their purpose hunting vermin and if they leave their pen one of the dwarves will put em back in.

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DF General Discussion / Re: Quantum Fortress
« on: May 07, 2016, 12:45:17 am »
Quote from: Putnam on May 06, 2016, 11:54:23 pm
It's only excessive pessimism in the face of overwhelming evidence that annoys me so much, and I see it a lot around here.

I got the impression that it was a long running in-joke to constantly whine.
Quote from: Starver on May 07, 2016, 12:31:23 am
Quote from: Putnam on May 06, 2016, 06:14:47 pm
in other words: quantum computing won't do shit for DF
What if I wanted to put a c in a Æ, possibly with a lump of *?

Hahaha

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DF General Discussion / Re: Quantum Fortress
« on: May 06, 2016, 11:29:36 pm »
Quote from: Putnam on May 06, 2016, 10:36:48 pm
Or the version after next, which you would know if you were to actually pay any attention to current development whatsoever.

Not paying attention is my speciality.  ;)
Thanks for filling me in then, I'm up to my ears in work and only hardly get the time to browse the forums.
I'm sorry my lack of attention annoyed you so grievously.  :-X

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Cool and unusual guests
« on: May 06, 2016, 10:43:40 pm »
Not a visitor but I once had a crundle become a citizen somehow. I made it the bartender, but it refused to do work.

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DF Adventure Mode Discussion / Re: Macro doesn't repeat
« on: May 06, 2016, 10:38:35 pm »
If you move the mouse the macro pauses. You just have to sit there and watch.

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DF General Discussion / Re: Quantum Fortress
« on: May 06, 2016, 10:34:20 pm »
Quote from: Putnam on May 06, 2016, 07:06:23 pm
DF is almost surely getting a 64-bit version relatively soon anyway.

Relatively soon, like the heat death.

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DF General Discussion / Re: The truth about Dwarven milk
« on: May 06, 2016, 10:25:35 pm »
Quote from: draeath on May 02, 2016, 10:10:50 pm
Vermont Cheddar isn't made out of Vermont

We can find many examples of this type of naming in both food and drink.

But it's a product of Vermont. Vermont cheese - produced in Vermont, from cow milk. They don't call it Human cheese.
Cow cheese (Doesn't signify location or culture where it is known to be produced, names species) - made from cow's milk, product of cows.
Dwarf cheese (Doesn't signify location or culture where it is known to be produced, names species) - product of dwarves, from dwarf milk, which happens to be produced by maggots, not dwarves.
It's the difference between naming the location it's made, and naming the species which the cheese is produced from. Dwarf names the species. That's where I pulled the connection from.
The cultures of the dwarves would be, as Kohaku said, "Oaken Pulleys" or "Drowned Hammer"; but as Shonai Dweller said, it's a generalisation made by humans that sweep all dwarf civs into the "Dwarven culture" which produces "Dwarven cheese"

I accept that it's just a name for consistency's sake. It's just a play on words which happened to parallel something else.

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DF General Discussion / Re: Forcing DF to stop generating a world
« on: May 03, 2016, 03:39:12 am »
You can go into advanced world parameters and set the end year you want.

Edit: You might also have to change / nullify the check for beast deaths as this will automatically stop world generation after a threshold.

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DF General Discussion / Re: The truth about Dwarven milk
« on: April 28, 2016, 07:26:25 pm »
Quote from: Shonai_Dweller on April 28, 2016, 07:13:09 pm
Quote from: kontako on April 28, 2016, 06:57:04 pm
Quote from: NW_Kohaku on April 28, 2016, 10:42:09 am
Silk comes form a worm's ass.  Honey is bee vomit.  Red food dye in the modern world is often made of crushed insects boiled in fermented piss.

Purring maggots are just some creature that has a sack of milk-like substance that dwarves can wring out of them.

But they don't call it 'Man bum string', or 'Sweet man vomit' or even 'Human red dye'. If you get where I'm going. They could've called it something like 'Sweet ichor', but Dwarven milk is where the decided to go.
Dwarvern milk. Meaning 'from the nation of dwarves' (not strictly speaking correct as there are many nations of dwarves, but it was probably named by ignorant humans). Greek yoghurt's not made from Greeks, you know.

I never thought of it that way, yeah that sounds a lot more likely now. Hahaha. I guess I became accustomed to seeing the world through the dwarves, thinking "Why would dwarves call it dwarven milk?". Although if Greek yoghurt was made from Greeks, I'd bet it'd be called Soylent Greek.  :P

Edit: I guess the confusion comes from Greece being a nation and Dwarves being a species, again they don't call Human yoghurt, but I think I'm just splitting hairs here. Although on the stage where there are multiple species I guess it makes sense.

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DF General Discussion / Re: The truth about Dwarven milk
« on: April 28, 2016, 06:57:04 pm »
Quote from: NW_Kohaku on April 28, 2016, 10:42:09 am
Silk comes form a worm's ass.  Honey is bee vomit.  Red food dye in the modern world is often made of crushed insects boiled in fermented piss.

Purring maggots are just some creature that has a sack of milk-like substance that dwarves can wring out of them.

But they don't call it 'Man bum string', or 'Sweet man vomit' or even 'Human red dye'. If you get where I'm going. They could've called it something like 'Sweet ichor', but Dwarven milk is where the decided to go.

Quote from: Urlance Woolsbane on April 28, 2016, 11:58:47 am
Nice!

Of course, when the myth-generator comes, we might start seeing this sort of thing in-game.

Yeah! That's the mindset I had when I saw the connection :)

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DF General Discussion / Re: The truth about Dwarven milk
« on: April 28, 2016, 07:02:41 am »
Well that's easy, It's made by dwarves!

I wasn't putting it forward as a serious explanation, just an interesting comparison.  :P

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DF General Discussion / The truth about Dwarven milk
« on: April 28, 2016, 03:43:29 am »
While on the wiki page for Dwarven milk I read the phrase "If cow cheese is made from cow's milk, what is dwarven cheese made of?". Of course you may know that Dwarven milk comes from purring maggots, but why is it called Dwarven milk and not maggots milk?

I believe I have an answer

The dwarves originated when Borr's sons formed maggots out of Ymir's blood, which they eventually decided to give a humanoid form. It is my belief that the purring maggots are primordial dwarves, which means they produce a very literal 'Dwarven milk'.

Sorry if this connection has been brought up before, I searched the forum for relevant wording but didn't find anything.

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