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Well I found out the hard way that the old mass pitting strategies don't work very well anymore, so I'm going to need to find some new ways to mass execute the goblins that come by.  They seem to avoid weapon traps better too, so that is no fun at all.  I weathered a big invasion of goblins, I caught a few of them and executed them, and I have a bunch of trolls and beak dogs to finish off.  The rest left after a few months, but they'll probably be back later, so I need to set up some fortified positions for my marksdwarves.  It's the biggest fight I've had since returning and there's a lot about fighting off sieges that I think I've forgotten.

Then the elves sent a diplomat which made things go from bad to worse.  He arrived right at the end of the siege, so maybe the goblins left in disgust?   

It wasn't all bad though, since I was able to successfully save scum for a male giant leopard from them to mate with the female they brought last year.  The elves' saving grace now is whatever potential warbeasts they can bring me.

As always, magma solves everything.

I guess some of that made sense.  It just looked weird as hell, and strange stuff happens in this game.  I was keeping a fairly close eye on that channeling so something wouldn't go wrong.  But today's game had its share of irritants and WTFs and this came at the end of it.  The worst was the fort's doctor deciding to take a break while treating a patient, then go outside and join in two other dorfs that were tormenting a monitor lizard that was roaming around.  The lizard mauled the doctor, badly injuring his hands and feet, then gelded him with a nasty bite.  Luckily, I had another dorf who'd recently arrived with medical skills who was able to treat Dr. Urist McNumbNoNuts.

Quote from: tonnot98 on December 06, 2020, 01:46:29 am

I was browsing through legends and learned that a goblin fort had been sacked by the humans. Not once or twice, but one hundred and twelve times. There's been over a thousand deaths on both sides over 200 years of fighting, and just about every historical figure in the human government body has participated in this semi-annual sacking in some way.

Had once a goblin master that went undercover in order to participate in competitions during frog man festivals. He was doing it over two hundred years, then probably got mad after losing a morningstar throwing championship and conquered the frog man lands.

Procedurally generated customs sure are curious.

Ha!  What a sore loser!

It's just Ironhand that's been tweaked a bit mostly with some appearances adjusted in the raws and some of Phoebus' TWBT stuff added in.  That's probably affecting some FPS somewhere, I think the graphical tilesets contribute some, but I can't read the ASCII.  There's just too much different stuff to display and I find the ground punctuation to be very distracting and confusing.

I know there are storage problems with bins and barrels but I sometimes run into problems when I don't use them either, and some of those bugs are version specific too I think.  Anyway, I hadn't noticed any serious problems with the bins in that stockpile so far.  Storage has a lot of long standing bugs, and there's been some annoying problems with things elsewhere in this fort, primarily with the food stockpiles.

Those are remains down in the lower left, that's the refuse stockpile with an atom smasher.

Reducing the fortress population to 100 improved the FPS a little, but only a little.  It's maybe 10 fps better. 

Anyway, I'm going to move up to the next version of DF, the LNP has it final 32-bit release as 43.03 so I'll go with that.  From what I've been reading the new stuff to learn here is:

• Taverns
• Temples
• Libraries
• Useless crap finally gets a use

I've been sort of looking forward to trying out the taverns.  From what I understand, they can overlap dining rooms and I think my dining room layout should work fairly well with it:



It's the same layout for the standardized fort design I came up with when I was running 34.x, with some tweaking.  For example, I found that the big food storage area was much more than I really needed so I divided it in two with food on one side and booze on the other.  For taverns, I can probably put a little 3x2 room in between the two sections there to stash mugs and goblets. 

Up in the upper right is a storage area for clothes.  My original thoughts when I planned the dining room area would be that the stuff across from the water reservoir would be for stores and stuff when the economy got reactivated.  Well, the economy isn't back yet, that stuff was pretty well broken from what I understand, but that part of the fortress I'll use for the libraries, temples, and other social areas.

My plans for preventing cave adaptation with the dining room did not work unfortunately, as I have a good number of barfy dorfs.  So I'll probably have to set up a small sculpture garden on the surface or something.  The military squads will have some outside patrols too.  The main upside to that is that digging out the dining hall from the surface then flooring it over was pretty time consuming, so I can skip that.

Children start playing with toys now, so I guess that gives me a use for all that lead I keep digging up on my maps.   

Dorfs bling themselves out with jewelry now, I guess I can put some of that stuff with the clothes and the instruments get used in the tavern too.

Job materials can be specified, so I don't need to use DF Hack for that, and there's been some improvements to work orders, so that might remove some of the job suspension kludges I've been relying on, but I'll have to see how things really work out in game.

That's amusing given the necromancers infesting the world.

Well, the trees at this fort seem to bear fruit around mid to late summer.  I've only used one dwarf to gather, but I'm not too impressed by it, especially since it's only once a year.  Still it's a new feature to me, so I want to experiment with it a bit.

And...gah!



Okay, I know you've just arrived at my fort by why the hell are you socializing with the elves?!?  What kind of self repecting dorf are you?  You don't even like elves for their grace!  Just because she's named Cacame doesn't mean she's worth anything, after all there is only ONE Immortal Onslaught.

Speaking of elves, I see they've lost their bins and bins of cloth from 40.x onwards.  That's not cool, I relied on that cloth for my clothing industry, and the bins came in handy afterwards.  You had one job, elf and now you're not even doing that.   Now your only use is whatever interesting animals you bring along that I might be able to breed.  They brought a python this year, and unfortunately it was male.  I bought it anyway since it was one of the only interesting things on the caravan, and maybe they'll bring a female I can breed in the future.  They can't be used for war, but python eggs and leather might be fun to produce.

I am feeling some urges to dunk the elves in the magma.