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Sion is one of those champs that *really* need a kit rework. He can choose to not be a complete liability early game and go AP, but then he's useless late game and he doesn't even have 2 skills unless he's using both of them at the same time, or he can choose to be useless for the first 20 minutes and never get to do anything because team already /ff'd. I prefer AD myself, but he's really in a terrible spot.

@Cthulhu: CC is probably less of a problem for Sion than it is for Trynd or Yi, all things considered. And blinds don't really exist. There are... 2 I think.

I never said I wanted to change the meta, just responded to the conversation that the meta isn't going to change without sweeping changes in the game itself.
As for reasons people don't like the meta, it's presently afk farm until somebody decides not to play passive, which is pointlessly boring to some people, there's not much room for variation, oh, and don't forget the armies of sheep.
"Ashe why are you going mid"
"I counter a lot of mids"
"But your job is carry"
"Yeah, and?"
"Carries go bot"
"But I get just as much farm going mid"
"Ashe, your job is carry"
"The only reason carries are supposed to go bot is [explanation of meta]. I do that just fine mid."
"Carries go bot"

It's a matter of being optimal. APs scale more with levels, ADs scale more with gold. You get the same amount of gold whether it's solo or duo (With a 0cs support ofc), so there's no reason not to send the AP mid, where he'll scale faster.

There's another change you could make. Mid's minions give less XP, but the same amount of gold.

Yeah. League's design direction (Squash ALL the bugs!) has made it stagnate. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but the meta isn't going to change until Riot makes some massive changes. Something like halving turret damage to champions, or maybe taking out Infinity Edge and Bloodthirster.

No, when you go lower in Elo, you get people who want to conform even MORE to the meta. You gotta rise up to get with the chill dudes at 2000 normal elo before they'll be cool with whatever.

I don't think there is any ulterior motive here. It's purely Riot wanting to get rid of the shit-quality skins.

I 100% garentee that if they'd put them on sale, GD would've had a million "OMG RIOT IS TRYING TO GET US TO BUY SHIT SKINS" threads. They're that hell-bent on proving riot is ebil.

I find I tend to vote no only when A, I'm feeling good about the game, B, seriously hate some of my team members and feel like trolling them, or C, am 1/99 and don't care enough anymore.

Also, reds are retiring most of the older legendary skins, much to the chagrin of the ever-cynical General Discussion.
Half the shit that comes out of there is "OMG RIOT TRYING TO STEAL OUR MONEY".

I don't even understand how getting rid of shitty skins is them trying to steal money.