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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« on: September 04, 2017, 11:24:24 am »
Well, there's always the chickenhawk.

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They fired the guy? The way I imagine the delivery it was pretty good as self-deprecating humor goes.

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I sure hope so :D

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So what change would you propose? Would the EU still be recognizable to the untrained eye afterwards?

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I'll suggest a slight title change:

"The abusing police thread: Beyond Brown, no justice"

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scriver wants Sweden to reign supreme. Any meddling from outside he considers unjustifiable. Consequently what he is advocating is a Europe atomized into completely sovereign nation states. How he deludes himself into thinking this would lead to brotherly cooperation as opposed to the law of the jungle is beyond me, especially since we have plenty of historical and current precedent for the latter.

But hey, Germany will once again be free to pressure Sweden into giving us cheap ore.

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So Sweden is filled with cannibals? Or how do you guys elect the Riksdag?

Look, if you're going to pull a basic statistics con like calculating one variable per capita and one variable in absolute terms, I'm going to call you out on it.
Then please do. What con?
It says so right in the damn quote. You're measuring payments to the EU on a per capita basis, but are complaining that small countries do not get enough aggregate influence. Connecting the two, you cry out about what a grave injustice is being committed. It's a classic swindle, and not a particularly good one.

Sweet, an insult coupled with links in a language you know I do not speak. Classy.

Don't act all coy and offended. Don't throw shit if you can't handle being told to stick it back up your arse.
It's called civility. If you like I'll quote the forum rules to you, but I think it's easier for everyone if you just head over there and treat yourself to a refresher autonomously.


E: smj: We have the commission, where every country supplies one commissioner, and also the veto power for each country. It's not exactly a second house, but it's analogous.

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Remember, we're talking about a parliament that's being elected, not a single president. A closer analogy would be eg. California having congressional districts with a million people each, while Maine had congressional districts with a hundred thousand people each. It's laughable, really - to ensure fairness among states of different sizes, you have the second chamber, there's no need to mess with the voting process in quite frankly arbitrary ways.

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Sweet, an insult coupled with links in a language you know I do not speak. Classy. Look, if you're going to pull a basic statistics con like calculating one variable per capita and one variable in absolute terms, I'm going to call you out on it.

Fun fact, for anyone else reading this: EU election rules make sure that the votes by people from less populous countries are weighted much more heavily than the votes from more populous ones. For example you need about a million German votes to get a seat in Parliament, but only about eighty thousand Maltese ones - that's less than a tenth.
And remember, the proposal we're discussing would move this ever so slightly in the direction of one man, one vote. That's what scriver calls 'death of democracy'.

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Which I think is a funny view because the countries in the North is the ones paying for the whole Eu project yet are completely powerless over EU policy and financing.

I thought Germany and France are the financial engines of the whole thing?
scriver's EU differs significantly from the corresponding organization on our plane of existence.

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Can't we rebrand it as LOLMeripol, under new LW management?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 01, 2017, 06:31:43 pm »
Easy to answer: Apply the Popper test to whatever statement you would like to make. If it is unfalsifiable, it's nothing more than empty babbling.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: September 01, 2017, 06:30:20 pm »
Wow. I think that was the first non-ironic post I've seen LW make in a while, and it's a genuinely touching one as well.

Sorry for your loss, man. Take good care of that potato - as it says in the Good Book:

      "There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven—

      A time to give birth and a time to die;
            A time to plant [potatoes] and a time to uproot what is planted [i.e. potatoes]."

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General Discussion / Re: Meanwhile in Africa
« on: September 01, 2017, 09:37:59 am »
Does this belong on this thread or should I move it elsewhere?
This thread is your thread, this thread is my thread/From page one to page thirteen?

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France officially proposed using the seats left vacants by the British MEP to start electing some MEP on a transnational jurisdiction. I really hope that works!
Sweeeeeeet.

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