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Reaching a maximum of 2^16=65536 symbols, yes.

Still, while division of labor will always be necessary for an advanced society, the question is whether or not we've explored all methods of managing it.  I don't think we have. Even the worst people can be motivated by something other than threats.

Treats? But yeah, following incentives is a good idea.

And it's my belief that every social relationship is different, and it's up to the individuals involved to figure out what works for them.  Any overarching system will work for some but not others, and those others are shit out of luck.

And that's why we look for the best system that exists, not for the best system that might exist - Anselm's ontological argument is false, after all. There needs to be a framework for people to work in, and a bad framework can do far more damage than all bad individuals put together - again, Soviet Russia, Red China, etc etc. I'd even go so far as to say that every person is willing to let everything go to shit if the framework is bad enough.

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Batlizard's life is a life of Jazz, women, and bowlboarding without asking. He lost his gall bladder in an unfortunate jeu de boules incident and spends most of his time slowly escaping bum collectors. He found himself becoming the most wanted plummer on the planet after accidentally incinerating the bedroom of the most beautiful, shiniest toaster he'd ever laid eyes on, while looking for the Joker.

He knew no amount of beer could save Brisbane this time and planned his heist, which was eventually successful because he refused to escape in anything less than a box with wings painted on it.

Leon joined the Twenty-Four Stooges for some messages cash, spending it on beautiful gorillas and antique meals. In combat, he puts his natural reptile abilities to some good use and feels up his enemies with great precision. Bonzai is a form of art for this pink lizard.

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Thecard.

But who didn't repair that thing, who was responsible for it not blowing up in the first place? You need a systematic solution to this problem, otherwise you'll just wind up with a load of well-intentioned but ineffective rules along with a horrible state of things in general. This is one of the few cases where using Soviet Rusia as an example is appropriate
The same thing applied to fascism, as I read in a book about the Mafia: "They soon discovered that inside the iron fist of fascism was the greasy open palm of corruption."

Also, there is a benefit of property in that it implies liability if something ever goes wrong. For example, if something breaks and is difficult to fix, or is impossible to fix and needs to be scrapped at great expense, then someone needs to be responsible for that, and if it's not considered to be property of anybody, then there is a problem.

Tragedy of the commons?
Assigning responsibility is apparently a big part of why laws are so complicated and bureaucracy so unwieldy - if you can't pin someone down as responsible, shit will start hitting the fan very soon.

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Eldritch Abominations, let's keep this thread on track, or at least enough to break all passengers in no more than seven pieces, OK?

Oh dear Satan.
What kind of wonderful abomination have I created? It's so insane it's actually glorious.