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I'm not saying I supported bernie. Hell, I always kind of saw him as an idiot populist parasite, but its pretty undeniable that he had a shitton of support here. If there's any revisionism going on here, its regarding that.

Where are the berniebros of yesterday?
Where did they come from, and where did they go? These things, I shall ask.

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"Clinton wasn't a suitable candidate" > It's the best that ever existed
I can't believe there's people on this forum that actually think Clinton was the best candidate for Dems. Before the primaries were over it seemed Bay12 pol threads were for Bernie and hated Hilldawg.

In all honesty, I'm pretty baffled by this myself. At the start of the campaigns, Bernie was clearly the favorite candidate in this thread, and now people are somehow pretending they were with Hillary from the start. Hell, many even lamented when Bernie fell out of the race.

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It was kinda made that way so that certain geographic aglomerations didn't get to rule the whole country. 'murica isn't one homogenous society, its a whole half a continent composed of a whole shitton of different people with different interests, if just pure majority of votes was taken into account, you might just as well rename it the united republic of new york, california and florida.

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Calm yourselves, no need to start flaming and get defensive over your favorite barrel shaped politician, don't paint me as the ultimate antichrist supersatan just yet, you've done that a lot to a whole shitton of people already, and that didn't get you far. Sit down and grab a beer.

BRING IN THE DANK MEMERY, IT'S TROLLTIME

Yeeeea, if anything the dems and all their supporters pretty much handed the election to Trump. Wake up call, guys, maybe alienating anyone who doesnt imediately agree with you by calling them huge racists, bigots and misogynists isn't the best idea ever for a presidential campaign.
Lol, apparently Clinton ran on a platform of hate. Really, tell me more.

"They're sending their rapists, their murderers..."

pussygate

srsly tell me that's not racism/sexism

That was pretty terrible of him yea, but here's the thing, Trump being Trump, acted as the buffon he has always shown himself to be and went along with it, even explaining himself, altough very half assedly. This was, of course, used against him by the Hillary campaign, except it was just kind of repeated forever? And for a while, that was pretty much the only argument raised against him in multiple (non debate) instances? Hell, it was all over the media, and it was still seen as a minor issue in comparison to the shit that got thrown on Hillary (benghazi, clinton foundation money laundering, wikileaks stuff, the emails, etc). Not to mention that said issue got minimized by a lot when the Wiener scandal came up. What happens when you got sexual harassment accusations vs actual, picture proven sexual harassment? Hillary didn't even actualy comment on the Wiener issue, at least not recently, AFAIK.

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All around the world, the news were all positive towards a Hillary win, but only the actual loud crazies took Hillary's campaign seriously. While she was hailed as a saint by the media (so much, in fact, it was almost cartoonish)
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lol no? Have you even seen the media? The emails which are in reality a non-issue have gotten blown far out of proportion by the media.

Where, breitbart? Fox News? Hillary had the BBC, CNN, NYP, etc, all with her. Of course, those outlets did comment on the emails issue, because those things are actualy a bigger issue than the stuff that got thrown at Trump, because those got progressively more minized because the same accusations were just repeated over and over, rather than actualy expanded upon, and so became seen as mostly baseless, while the scandals involving Hillary just piled on.

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pretty much nobody actualy took her seriously
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except people did

Yep, but mostly just the people that were with her from the start. A lot of indecisives got alienated mid campaign, and nothing was done about it because Hillary's supporters were adamantly convinced that she'd win. A lot of center leaning liberals got attacked for not supporting her.

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while Trump was seen as a guy that, despite getting beatdowns over and over by big media, always somehow seemed to come out on top, even when he didn't have full republican support.
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well huh maybe that's just how you saw it

I guess the results point out I'm probably not the only person who did. But hey, who am I to question your religion :U

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IE, the dems made everything so cartoonish and infantile that everyone just got fed up.
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o rly

Quite rly.

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Additionaly, the democratic party associated itself with stuff people are not entirely happy with (black lives matter, saying banning milo from twitter is ok, attacking more centre-leaning liberals like sam harris because he's not very fond of islam OR Hillary even though he admitted he'd probably vote for her, etc).
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ya? black lives do matter and I won't vote for anybody who says otherwise

They certainly do matter, except not to Black Lives Matters, I guess, lel. Also it takes some serious gymnastics to consolidate groups like muslims and LGBT people, specially during the current times.

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Also, here's a rather big reason Hillary's campaign failed so massively: when faced with all the scandals and accusations thrown against her, nothing much other than utter dismissal was done about it
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hmm, maybe because there was no actual scandal, just a manufactured scandal?

When you're a presidential candidate, you gotta explain shit when it gets thrown at you, and the burden of proof isn't something that works super well in popularity contests. Trump was a buffon and just denied the stuff thrown at him, but he was smart enough to hide behind Hillary's very shady scandals. She was seen as the smartest and more reasonable of the two, so people expected an answer from her, and it simply didn't came. Then the wiener issue came up and she didn't bat an eye.

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while at the same time a lot of shit got thrown at Trump, and Trump being Trump, took things at face value and counter attacked
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lolwut, Trump brought that on himself, all the shit he says is barely noticed. If the media was fair then Trump would have had far more of his shit thrown back at him

Mayhap, but here's the thing, Hillary's scandals got seen as the worst evils, and her campaign wasn't able to change that scenario. Ignoring people that want answers tends to do that.

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specially in the last debate, even when the media was pretty much ALL Hillary, to the point CNN literally cut off people on air when they wanted to talk about wikileaks stuff on Hillary.
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context? link? anything?

Its essentialy a meme by now.
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Do you really think people will look at that without as much batting an eye?
What happens to your image when 80% of the people defending your campaign on twitter consists of loud mouthed people who who surround themselves only by people who agree with them and attack anyone who doesnt?
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well huh, maybe people like circlejerks, this is the case on both sides

Indeed, except Hillary's were considered politically correct circlejerks and more accepted in Twitter, facebook and reddit moderation, and people who questioned said ideas got banned almost arbitrarily, kinda like Milo. You don't have to like him, but his ban was pretty much on the face controversial, and while not related to her campaign, got seen as an example of censorship in favor of politically correctness, which, mind you, a whole lot of people on 'murica hate with a passion.

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What happens when there's huge infighting and name calling because the more centre leaning liberals don't like hillary at all?
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politics as usual
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Politics as usual if you're a 15 year old boy, I guess. Life and people tend to be a bit more complex than cartoon network shows, I'm afraid.

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Hell, Trump supporters would just get shut down, told to shut up and banned from discussions simply for not agreeing with the stablished idea in the media of Hillary being a saint.
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no, they were told to shut up because they were being irrational idiots

Thanks for proving my point.

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Hell, I watched this happening right here on this very topic, and even warned people that said behavior would come back to haunt them.
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ah, so all of the problems can be blamed on us, noice

exactly how does "you are being irrational" become a bad thing in your mind, srsly

nenjin: who is revising wut?

Having different opinions =/= irrationality. Lets see how many more humiliating defeats it takes for the dems to realize this, but hey, its regressive left season.

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General Discussion / Re: Election Day, USA!
« on: November 09, 2016, 12:53:02 pm »
Calm down people, if insulting everyone has clearly been proven to not work at all, violence won't take you much further. There's a pretty mean post election divide going on in 'murica right now and there are shady people (on both sides, lets not pretend we live in middle earth now) who are prob willing to take advantage of that kind of conflict. I'm with the WaitButWhy guy on this one, things will probably be ok, and if they arent, then you can try and do something about it, but nothing concrete has happened just yet, so, chill?

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Yeeeea, if anything the dems and all their supporters pretty much handed the election to Trump. Wake up call, guys, maybe alienating anyone who doesnt imediately agree with you by calling them huge racists, bigots and misogynists isn't the best idea ever for a presidential campaign. All around the world, the news were all positive towards a Hillary win, but only the actual loud crazies took Hillary's campaign seriously. While she was hailed as a saint by the media (so much, in fact, it was almost cartoonish), pretty much nobody actualy took her seriously, while Trump was seen as a guy that, despite getting beatdowns over and over by big media, always somehow seemed to come out on top, even when he didn't have full republican support.

IE, the dems made everything so cartoonish and infantile that everyone just got fed up. Additionaly, the democratic party associated itself with stuff people are not entirely happy with (black lives matter, saying banning milo from twitter is ok, attacking more centre-leaning liberals like sam harris because he's not very fond of islam OR Hillary even though he admitted he'd probably vote for her, etc).

Also, here's a rather big reason Hillary's campaign failed so massively: when faced with all the scandals and accusations thrown against her, nothing much other than utter dismissal was done about it, while at the same time a lot of shit got thrown at Trump, and Trump being Trump, took things at face value and counter attacked, specially in the last debate, even when the media was pretty much ALL Hillary, to the point CNN literally cut off people on air when they wanted to talk about wikileaks stuff on Hillary.
Do you really think people will look at that without as much batting an eye?
What happens to your image when 80% of the people defending your campaign on twitter consists of loud mouthed people who who surround themselves only by people who agree with them and attack anyone who doesnt?
What happens when there's huge infighting and name calling because the more centre leaning liberals don't like hillary at all?

Hell, Trump supporters would just get shut down, told to shut up and banned from discussions simply for not agreeing with the stablished idea in the media of Hillary being a saint. Hell, I watched this happening right here on this very topic, and even warned people that said behavior would come back to haunt them.

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WaitButWhy guy did a pretty sober article on this, a Hillary voter himself.

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The everything, thats what.

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Cuba reacts to things it doesnt like by opressing its people and pretending it is military power is relevant, what is new?

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And his cohort, Kazooie?

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Calm your wishful thinking, the world isn't going to explode just yet, we're still some 3 years off from that.

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Gyrojets were also notoriously... Oddly made? Like the quality between each pistol and the ammo varied a lot for some reason. That is one of the reasons it didn't take off, with the other reason being that they were rather underpowered in comparison to regular pistols and the ammo was rather expensive.

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General Discussion / Re: Election Day, USA!
« on: November 09, 2016, 08:15:25 am »
Don't write off 2016 just yet, there's still time for more dimensional anomalies.

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This reminds me that I can't wait for this to hit conspiracy theory youtube and they start making videos about how the election got fucked due to massive mandela effects.

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I can't say I'm not happy that Hillary lost, which no, doesnt mean I want Trump to be my daddy, sorry, CNN.

Oh yea, Trump victory has a whole 'nother much more delicious consequence: it means that most of the media worldwide sucks balls. Tons of so called political analysts are now getting ripped apart on social networks and being exposed for the huge narrative driven dweebs they are. Its about time old media took its head out of its ass and got driven into the dirt.

Which doesnt mean it will die, oh no, get ready for the infinite torrent of emotionally charged news about how your family is going to catch on fire because Trump is president, that shit sells because it feeds all the wounded egos looking for psychological recourse after getting their expectations mauled, which is of course very convenient for all those public figures who made a fair bit of buzz rooting for hillary and saying anyone who doesnt agree with them are all horned, thrice cursed honorary KKK members with pepe tatoos.

The kek is about to reach overdrive.

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