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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Roll to Quest
« on: November 23, 2023, 02:32:54 pm »
Sweet! It looks like we have a decent spread across the team too. one caster/healer, one sneaky, and several fighters.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 22, 2023, 02:51:46 am »
triple posting but I think you're probably in preview atm and I want to get this out:

The reason I'm not proposing specific solutions is because that would require me playing Marco, not Indaria. I'm not Marco's player, and have zero interest in playing Marco. I've instead been telling you what is important to me, and saying that everything else is up for grabs. The list of options that are on the table to me is nearly all of them, and I specifically included Indaria being punished within the specified limits as an option because it's what I think should happen and in other circumstances it would be considered hostile, but in these I would NOT consider it hostile. You're right that she shouldn't get away scot-free with this, I just think you're going too far.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 22, 2023, 01:47:18 am »
Here, I'll try to back things up a step and de-escalate. No point in pointing fingers.

Lets plan on and pre-map a retcon + conversation, and work together for how the conversation should end up:

Indaria's goals:
She is attempting to be completely open and honest with Marco. (negotiable, it hasn't been hard-established that she insists on being open and honest with Marco at all times, but going that route is just kicking the can down the road.)
She intends to keep what she got from her gamble. (negotiable, can be temporarily taken away with an OOC agreement that she gets it back later, or might find out that it's bound to her from Stirk when removal is attempted?)
She needs to remain a playable character. (non-negotiable, temporary imprisonment is fine, permanent removal from play is not)

What are Marco's goals?

edit: labeling how negotiable things are

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 22, 2023, 01:37:33 am »
Please don't insinuate that a choice you are making right now is my choice instead of yours. It really isn't cool. I communicated clearly and publicly for a good while now. Please, please don't try and hoist that on me.

You are issuing ultimatums, not having a conversation. Here's literally what you just said, trimmed:
Yes, then due to OOC courtesy I do think it's fair to chat about this. So how do you want this to end?
I don't want her unable to play the game for obvious reasons
your suggestion is the rough equivalent of a guy showing up covered in blood to a police officer, confessing to a murder

Please don't insinuate I am to blame
My "suggestion" was literally "I want my character to be playable". Are you honestly saying I'm being unreasonable by asking for my character to be playable? Really? I now see why you brought up PvP.

I'm not going to be gaslit into thinking that YOUR choices regarding what Marco does are my fault. I have never said that you are to blame for me making my own choices, I said that if you wanted to take such a hardline stance about my choices, essentially removing choice from my character, it would have been polite to at least say something. Your attempt to gaslight me about it is why I'm throwing your words back into your face over it.

As far as I can tell, you're just going through the motions right now. You might as well come clean and stop dancing around. Are you or are you not issuing a flat ultimatum that either we retcon that my character do / not do what you want, else your character will initiate pvp / make mine unplayable?

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 22, 2023, 01:00:47 am »
I don't want her unable to play the game for obvious reasons, which your outcome results in. Her being penalized in general is fine

The real question is how pragmatic Marco is willing to be.
For example, I'd like to point out that under normal circumstances Xenos aboard ship would also be a major no as well.
Right now, he's got an active incursion she's dealing with, which imprisoning her would be a major setback towards dealing with.
He also should take into account the fact that she did come to him about it.
There's also several obvious why-based questions he hasn't asked, like, why did you do that, and why are you telling me.

also, I did go out of my way to flag that Indaria was prone to making the choices she made multiple times in OOC long, long before anything happened. If you really wanted to take such a firm stance it would have been courteous to say something back then.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 22, 2023, 12:36:45 am »
Lenglon is aware that it SHOULD be immediate execution in 40k, no question. The tactical correct move for her would have been to keep that hidden forever at all costs.

Indaria is not actually. She knows it's bad, but her background is strange, and this is one of the holes in it. She's been exposed to a LOT of chaos, arguably more of chaos than of imperium. But shockingly enough, the mutant has never been in good imperial graces. I mean, she is, herself, one of those that would get executed simply for being a mutant in some places. So her sense of how bad something is is based on how bad it would be in a community of mutants, not in the mainstream imperium.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (IC)
« on: November 22, 2023, 12:15:19 am »
"I checked the risks. I bargained and reduced the stakes, making sure even if I lost I wouldn't betray you. And then I took the gamble, and won. He got nothing."

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 21, 2023, 09:49:24 pm »
Lenglon's expectations are that there will likely be a disagreement, and that Indaria will have to explain herself. She came to him immediately and directly instead of dancing around things in any way, and she did that because she believes that it's important that she doesn't hide anything from him, as well as to establish goodwill.

I find it interesting how Stirk prompted her statement as her claiming to be a heretic, because that isn't actually what she said. But that's meta and irrelevant.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Roll to Quest
« on: November 21, 2023, 08:54:16 pm »
Is this for 1 collective player (SG) or multiple players?
Multiple players I believe.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 21, 2023, 06:07:16 pm »
Indaria has made a point of not lying to him. Ever.
That doesn't change even now.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (IC)
« on: November 21, 2023, 12:35:32 pm »
Indaria, waking from her demon-dream of her own, fiddles with her new necklace stained with daemon blood before wearing it and letting it rest under her uniform and armor, against her body.
We have too many sensitive people here to hide the chaos artifact. I have to come clean immediately, or lose the trust I've earned.
And so she gives the demanded immediate status first.
++Am fine, more in private++
but heads to the Captain immediately to give a more detailed, but private, report.
"Won my bet. Have an item from it. Lets me change myself."

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 21, 2023, 01:28:47 am »
Spoiler: Indaria's Dream (click to show/hide)

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 20, 2023, 01:24:55 am »
I mean, Indaria had a good time, and is leaving on good terms.

Seems like our Imperial captain didn't enjoy himself?

by the way, I'm thinking of putting what happened in her dream into a spoiler either here or in IC, so that nobody that doesn't want to know things their character doesn't ends up accidently opening it, but it would be available for public view by anyone that doesn't mind being spoiled. It's not like the game's PVP after all.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Roll to Quest
« on: November 19, 2023, 03:00:44 pm »
Spoiler: Ahrian (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Background (click to show/hide)

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Rogue Trader: Laughing Gold (OOC)
« on: November 17, 2023, 05:16:37 pm »
And the coin is in the air.

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