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I noticed here that you seem to have put a lot more thought into this from a mafia viewpoint, why is that?Griffon(griffonpup): What would your preferred role be as Town? How about mafia?I would prefer jailkeeper in Town for the increased versatility. The ability to be a doctor, and block roles is pretty useful. As mafia, godfather would be my pick. (at least I think it's called godfather. The one that makes you look town.) I would like that because it lets you get cleared by the cop, which means you don't have to kill him as early. LET HIM SPREAD HIS LIES!!! I WILL REIGN VICTORIOUS! This is kinda the attitude I have in that situation.
Oh, I see. You're just naturally histrionic, jumpy, and nervous. You weren't reacting to my vote! Just my incredibly aggressive questions.... I really don't get where you're coming from here, and that is not at all what I said. I said I over-answer questions regularly. and I'm not accusing you of being over-aggressive. What I am accusing you of is tunneling, and I find it very interesting that you only weighed in after griffion got the ball rolling for you. You did eventually get around to asking someone else a question, but only after I pointed out what you were doing. That seems either scummy because you dont want to distract people from a potential wagon, or just plain lazy. and clearly you arn't lazy.
Lenglon:those were repeats of what Vector had already asked. all you were accusing me of was over-answering a question. which once again, I do that all the time, whoop de doo.
You totally missed my questions to you here, did you forget that I'm still voting for you?
Lenglon: The dodge would be scummy if it weren't for the sheer fact that she's right. You have 6 questions from her that you obviously have read and not answered. If you answered them and then pointed out the dodge, your post would have some merit. Failing to do this just makes you look scummy.6 questions... what? ranger, those are reposts of old questions that I already answered. if a new one was slipped into the pack please point it out.
Second of all, "who will you use your intellect on in RVS" is not the same thing as "give me a ranked target list and gameplan for the entire game." Don't blow things out of proportion. You're being jumpy and overreactive over a question-dodge, and that's not good.I dont understand this part, could you please explain?
Third of all, does my answer to your RVS question do anything helpful for you? You've said you're trying to learn how people will react to things. What have you learned from me?I dont have enough evidence to be sure, but the response you gave me is at Tier 2 in WIFOM. you are reacting to your opponent's thoughts, but not assuming they are reacting to yours. for you, I would place the poison in the cup nearest me. but right now I dont have enough data to be sure.
It's not bad that you're trying to improve. It's unusual that you say it's obvious you're focused on the current game, and that your focus entails learning how to play scum better.You're misreading me, all the situations i've described are WIFOM based to some degree. I'm trying to get a baseline idea for how the people around me think. still, considering how unsuccessful it was last game, you're right, it's time for a new (old) tactic.
But if it were obvious, then I wouldn't be asking you questions, would I.
Lenglon- You are scum, and you have two NK candidates in mind. One is an active and good IC, who is currently starting to suspect you. The other is already at your throat, but didn't manage to get you lynched the day before. He also isn't very good at forming persuasive arguments, hence you not getting lynched. Who do you NK?NK the one that is only starting to suspect me, the other one has done all the damage they can do.
isn't it the most defensive form of questioning to, as Deathsword did in the game mentioned, not ask questions?I have been told to state "Why" and list my resoning even before being asked. This way people can see that I'm being blatant, blunt and I have nothing to hide.Not for questions. If you want to play a psychological style, then play psychologically. Hunt the scumteam and scare the crap out of them! Do you honestly think you're going to make anyone worried about your line of questions if you're completely clear about how they're supposed to react, and that you're not interested in killing anyone, and that you're playing defensively from the get-go?
Lenglon, why aren't you answering his question? You sound awfully nervous, my dear squidling, my best beloved. Why, you're even typing out your nervous laughter! And then there's this...did you notice the
emoticon? he was funning, referencing last BM. I wanted my answer to be in a similarly light-hearted tone. the reason I didn't answer his question directly is quite frankly, this early in the game all someone can do is act on basic general principals, if he'd given me a more complicated situation I'd give a longer answer. Unless you're asking for me to provide a ranked target list and gameplan for the entire mafia game? i'd be willing to do this, but for my sanity, please name a hypothedical scumbuddy for me, and tell me which one of us is supposedly the role cop. I'm to lazy to bother writeing out a giant GRAND MASTER PLAN for every single possible combination, and anything that far-reaching would require customization to the specific situation.I want to learn from my mistakes. What's wrong with trying to improve? It should be obvious that i'm focused on the current game.Yeah, I was frustrated that last BM I wasn't able to use WIFOM properly. I want to try to get into people's heads and figure out where they'd jump when and why. as before I dont plan on sharing anything WIFOM based until i can form it into something solid... and hopefully more accurate than I was last time.
Why aren't you focused on this BM?
Lenglon: So... 5 (out of 7) questions that pertain to how to play as mafia... Something on your mind?Yeah, I was frustrated that last BM I wasn't able to use WIFOM properly. I want to try to get into people's heads and figure out where they'd jump when and why. as before I dont plan on sharing anything WIFOM based until i can form it into something solid... and hopefully more accurate than I was last time.
Lenglon- You are now officially scumHaha, ok, um, presupposing I were scum, I'd try to act as much like I would as town as possible. Any differences would be scumtells. I might even flat refuse to open the scumchat, simply because if having the scumchat changed my gameplay then that would be a scumtell.
Lenglon: Which IC would you be afraid of if they were scum? Why?Either one. sadly I dont know enough about them to say which one is scarier. I really dont want a repeat of last BM though.
"Got any hints, Lyra? I'll try to recall what ever happened before we...err, got here."
