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Quote from: Radio Controlled on April 20, 2014, 06:57:07 am

Quote from: Xantalos on April 19, 2014, 12:56:25 am

I admit, I would be very very interested in seeing how a Worm RPG thing could be created, if only so I could kill Contessa and Taylor multiple times.

Was it just me that felt like this, or did the author of worm indeed create a very interesting setting with great powers and creative use of them, only to screw up with an annoying as hell protagonist and tweenage ruhmanse?

I'm always annoyed by teenage romance. But knowing someone who killed themselves over bullying and seeing all the stories in the news about rape and bullying going entirely unpunished, my respect for highschool and college authorities is incredibly low. I suspect that its hard to like Taylor if you don't identify with her problems with authority. It definitely makes her rationalizations harder to swallow if you don't understand that part of her backstory personally.

If you have issues with Worm, there is a guy on the Worm reddit, which I visited for the first time yesterday, who has some great criticisms of Taylor's characterization, as well as several issues with Wildbow's writing. For instance how the Slaughterhouse 9 and Legends are always fucking losing even though they are supposed to be incredibly powerful. Its actually pretty interesting to read his critiques of the various parts of the story.

Note that Taylor lacks characterization in a lot of ways. Since Wildbow was not an experienced writer at the beginning, a lot of the early parts, especially ones he didn't rewrite later, are pretty terrible. Even though I understand Taylor's motivations from personal experience she wasn't written super well at the start which bleeds into the whole story even when the writing gets better.

Could you get a link to the thing? I can't quite find it on the subreddit.

Quote from: Xantalos on April 20, 2014, 10:54:50 am

Quote from: Radio Controlled on April 20, 2014, 06:57:07 am

Quote from: Xantalos on April 19, 2014, 12:56:25 am

I admit, I would be very very interested in seeing how a Worm RPG thing could be created, if only so I could kill Contessa and Taylor multiple times.

Was it just me that felt like this, or did the author of worm indeed create a very interesting setting with great powers and creative use of them, only to screw up with an annoying as hell protagonist and tweenage ruhmanse?

No, I'm with you. Mostly because I read it in a single sitting rather than over a few weeks like you're supposed to, but eh.

Yeah, maybe in small packages it would be easier to swallow. As is though, I sometimes found myself thinking "If the protagonist died right now, I wouldn't mind one bit, as long as we could continue to explore the setting." Maybe I'm just a cynical person though.

So, right now it's 2 against and 2 in favor of Taylor/them romances being at least a tad annoying.

I didn't care about Taylor's romance, mainly because I didn't realize until the thing was over that she was even in any. I just didn't like how she won against everything.

I'M JUST TALKING VERY LOUDLY

NAH
IF THEYRE THAT EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE THEN THEY CAN DIE

Quote from: Xantalos on April 20, 2014, 11:45:42 am

THEN THEY STUPID AND LIKELY DESERVE DEATH

KILLING SELF IN ABSENCE OF ROMANTICISM STUPID

BUT NO FUCKERY XANTY-CHAN
NO. FUCKERY.

IS BAD FOR PROFITS AND CONVERTS

MISERABLE PEOPLE IN THIS GAME IS ONE OF THE INCENTIVES FOR JOINING

LET THE FUCKERY CONTINUE XANTY-CHAN
I WANT TO SELL MORE TICKETS

It is. Surely you realize I'm an aspect of it?

I enjoy it when a number of you are miserable as well.