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Quote from: Xantalos on February 21, 2013, 01:54:56 am

Quote from: Neonivek on February 21, 2013, 01:54:34 am

Quote from: Xantalos on February 21, 2013, 01:48:34 am

Quote from: Neonivek on February 21, 2013, 01:46:26 am

and yet that still isn't an excuse because once again... Gandalf "Knew" he would lose.

Anything he did during godhood would be far less then what Sauron, and how viciously evil he is, would do. A good old continent smashing was just what they needed.

He specifically wasn't allowed so that the mortals would make their own destiny. He could only give council.

Dumbledore is human.

...so?

So Gandalf is barred from Godhood... which we don't even know how he goes into that mode.

I mean... what stops Gandalf from going to godmode and going "Yeah, I win anyway. Reset"?

Huh? No, I mean he's not allowed to use his power to, say, assume control over a human empire and try to conquer the world, Saruman. He probably can use his power against sufficiently powerful beings like the Balrog. Anyhow, this is assuming no limitations, is it not?
Although I support the idea of them teaming up instead of fighting. They should team up with Yoda too. That would be one of the scariest fighting teams ever.

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Quick, everyone think of names of old wise people do we can compile them into a guild!

and yet that still isn't an excuse because once again... Gandalf "Knew" he would lose.

Anything he did during godhood would be far less then what Sauron, and how viciously evil he is, would do. A good old continent smashing was just what they needed.

He specifically wasn't allowed so that the mortals would make their own destiny. He could only give council.

As I like to think of it, villains in Tolkein are like this big mecha with steam punk galore, interlocking parts, stuff like that, it's unstoppable and all intimidating. However, wizards are the one splinter that comes out of nowhere and hits the mech in the exact right spot to make it explode spectacularly.

Quote from: Neonivek on February 21, 2013, 12:14:54 am

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People don't seem to understand what exactly Gandalf is

I understand what he is, it is just that... well... "Just because you are all that in your neighbourhood it doesn't mean you are Mr. Bigshot here"

Dumbledore is good in a universe where magic itself is a lot more impressive. Which translates into being godlike in the Lord of the Rings universe.

You do not get a pass just because you are considered "Hot stuff" in your own universe.

I agree; its like comparing Darth Vader with Superman. Sure, Vader is one of the most powerful characters in his universe, but Superman can just drop a mountain on him.

Although I still maintain that Dumbledore wouldn't have time to do anything; he would be disarmed immediately by Gandalf because Dumbledore's disarming spell is slower.

Fixed it for continuity.

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Quote from: Neonivek on February 20, 2013, 06:42:50 pm

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He says so himself; he's the most dangerous person they're ever going to meet besides Sauron.

Yeah but this is Lord of the Rings universe... A man with an Uzi would be the most dangerous person in middle earth.

A man with an Uzi would also arguably be the most dangerous person in the Wizarding world.

I think J.K. Rowling said a Muggle with a gun would beat a wizard anytime. I don't remember when, though.

That begs the question as why no one in the HP universe uses guns.

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