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So my work on a giant sperm whale farm continues. I have placed bridges over almost the entire edge of the map and linked them all to one lever. I am having a problem though, there are ramps along the edge and I can't smooth them or make the bridge raise on that side. I poked around dfhack looking for a way to smooth them but could not find any. Can animals spawn on ramps? Is there a way to remove them?

Also, I've asked elsewhere, but I'm not sure anyone knows the answer. If I breach the caverns below, any animals migrating onto that area, do they count towards the total animal pop? Would I effectively have to bridge off the caverns. as well to up my chances of the sea spawning creatures?

Also, is there a way to test if a swimming giant sperm whale will deconstruct a retracting bridge? I can't find an answer to that anywhere.

if I'm going to be in the vicinity of a nuke, I want to be ground zero. I want the bomb to land directly on my head. None of that drawn out slow death for me.

that's not right. I was watching White Light, Black Rain and some of the survivors heard the nuke. Admittedly they were either horrifically burned, survived because they were covered in debris, or something else like that, but you can hear it and survive.

I mean, the aggressive cancer you'll get later will probably take you out.

Also, you will become instantly dehydrated. The movie I mentioned, one survivor talks about how he gave water to two different people and "killed" them both by accident because they drank until their stomachs burst they were so thirsty.

It was so bad after the bombs, children would commit suicide by jumping in front of trains.

It's a good documentary, btw, everyone should watch it.

personalities vary so widely you probably wouldn't be able to set up a reliable control group.

Quote from: 3man75 on November 22, 2014, 12:57:19 pm

Does it matter if i get a bachelors in Psychology? It seems pieces of graduating paper are just to get past the first wave of Human resources hiring. "He's got a degree..okay next pile. When's my break?"

...yes, and no. What you're describing can and does happen, but there are a lot professions that just don't work that way. If you're going to be a doctor, you need an MD. "Any degree" won't help you. If you get into accounting, I think they pretty much expect your degree to be in accounting, even though there's actually no requirement to have a degree at all unless you're planning to be a CPA. For example, if you know quickbooks, you can conceivably get a job doing AP/AR with no degree at all.

The positions your'e talking about are the ones where HR has one position to fill and they get 100 applicants. the job doesn't need a degree, but half the applicants have one and half don't, so they toss the ones that don't to simplify the process. But that makes you one of 50 instead of one of 100. Is that worth four years of your life?

There are a lot of cases where a degree just doesn't matter. Look at vocational schools. If you try to get a job as a plumber or an electrician or something and say "Hi! I have a psychology degree!" they're going to laugh in your face. College just isn't the path to take to get hose kinds of jobs. Alternately, if you have an MCSE or a Cisco certificate, that would probably open a lot more doors for you than a computer science degree.

Then there are results driven positions where paper doesn't matter at all. If you're good at sales, nobody cares one tiny bit what pieces of paper you have. I used to sell cars for Toyota. My background at the time was computers. They asked me why I was even applying, since I had no sales experience. I told them I was tired of making less than six figures and wanted to be rich like all my friends. They put me in their sales training program and hired me on the spot.

So, this thing you're talking about having a degree getting you past HR, yes that does happen. And sometimes it doesn't. A degree will hold open some doors for you that might otherwise have been closed. But it's certainly no magic wand that will make things happen for you and it's not the only option. I know a woman with a law degree who's been chronically unemployed for as long as I've known her. I know a millionaire high school dropout. And yes, I also know people who knuckled down, spent 7-8 years in school getting pieces of paper and now they're making six figures.

But the degree is not magic, and it's not required to live a decent life. It's a valid option. Not the only option.

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When you say college is unrealistic with math (an i may be taking that out of context) does that include University also?

I'm not sure what I said that prompted that question. As you say, that might have been a context issue.

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The kind of money i can move out and live on my own while still going to things like this: http://www.magiccitycomiccon.com/ Still vague i know but lol.

Heh. Comic con. I tried to go to the San Diego con last year but couldn't get tickets. Need to find somebody who's gone before so I can get it on the previous attendee early sale.

Your expectations are very low. Live on your own, have fun. Ok. That's, what...$30,000 a year? Florida is cheap, so 25k, maybe? You certainly don't need to be making six figures for what you want. Here's a thought: it sounds like you have a safe, comfortable nest. Living with parents (I assume), college is paid for, there's no reason to drop out and plenty of reasons not to.

But...I would advise you to investigate other options. For example, if somebody offered you a $12-$15/hr job right now, would you take it? If you could live the life you want right now, without spending a couple more years in school and hoping that the job market hasn't become worse in that time, would you?

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I really want a 10$-12$ paying job

I'll take that as a yes.

So why not look into it? For example, it's $188 to take the A+ certification test. That's an entry level computer desktop support certificate. No classes, no college required. Walk in, take the test. Now, I highly recommend that you don't just walk in. Download test materials. Take sample tests. Learn the material. That's something you can easily do in your spare time for free. And then once you have it, go apply for a couple jobs. Or alternately, Try a technical recruiting agency. At one time, TekSystems used to offer a deal where they'd put you through a six week course to prepare you for the A+ in exchange for signing a non-competition agreement, and once you passed the test they'd hire you. Deals like that might still exist.

Or if you don't want to do computers, maybe get a forklift certification. Entry level for a forklift operator is in the $10-$12/hr range, and once you have some experience, median pay is $33,000/yr. I mean, we're not talking lots of money here, but it's enough to do what you want. And you might be able to do it now without years more in college. And if you take night classes instead of day classes you probably don't even need to leave the safety net you have, while you're making money that might turn into a career able to give you the life you want,

Don't want to drive forklifts?Why not get a commercial driving license? AIPB bookking certification? Become a licensed tax preparer? Get a security guard card? Maybe become a licensed real estate sales agent and sell houses? No degree required. Only a 63 hour course. I took mine through a local real estate office. It was under $200.

There are so many options other than college.

Why not look into them?

incidentally, Florida is only cheap because the average income is lower. The only people that benefit are the people already retired.

Actually, what am I saying? Florida isn't cheap at all. Maybe cheaper than New York, I guess, but not something I'd aim for when it comes to cheap. (Also it's a cess pit)

Here's the real question, OP, what do you WANT to do? What do you feel you are capable of accomplishing that you would enjoy doing?

Because it seems like you are very focused on making money but not thinking through the fact that all of the jobs you have listed are very heavy on math, and you might not even enjoy doing them.

If you want to squeak by the math issue with programming, go to a business college, it will not require things like calculus. But if you are struggling with algebra, programming isn't a very good option for you.

I'm not saying the money will come, follow your heart. I wish I was saying that but there's a lot of very poor art majors out there that might disagree.

What I'm saying is, college is a long term debt, so you want to use it, at least the first time around, to get yourself set up in a manner that allows you to live -comfortably- and not hate your life.

Have you consider computer and electrical engineering? That is the physical side of computers. I was looking into that at one point. The cool thing about going to say ITT and getting a degree in that is not only do you know all about the guts of computers, you can probably also rewire a house.

I do not know how heavy the math is for that but I have heard it is lucrative. It involves a growing field, just a different end of it, and it will probably involve a lot less math.

I always felt like I would have done better if I had maybe taken a year off from school between high school and college. That is also an option. You seem very undecided. Maybe you should take a year off and figure out what you want going forward.

Man imma have to melt down all my metal shields and make wooden ones :/

Well here's what the live news last night said
(And they gave a run down of what has been happening by from shooting to verdict)

Cop is helping some people out after their kid stopped breathing or something
A police report comes in on a robbery
The other cops lead but this one stays to make sure the EMS gets there
He then leaves in the direction of the recent update on the robbery
There is a description of the robber given out (his clothes and what he stole and that there may be one other possibly male person with him)
The cop is driving along and sees someone that matches the description
The asks them to stop (he also noticed that the one match g the description was holding the possibly stolen items)
Words were exchanged
The robber (Michael brown) aprouched the police car
Exchange of words and possibly insults
Brown begins to reach into the car and a struggle begins (supported by physical evidence as well as testimony from eye witnesses, these eye witnesses do include African American people)
Other officer tried to defend himself
He could not reach his pepper spray or cane without putting himself in more danger
He draws his gun and warns brown say that he will shoot him if he does not get back
Brown attempts to get the gun
A shot goes off (possibly the one that hit his hand)
(A couple more shots may have also possible gone off during the struggle)
Brown runs
(This is where eye witness gets iffy but the physical evidence supports some of the eye witness stories so this is what I remember the news saying)
The officer chased after him
Brown turned around (and possibly charged back after the officer)
He did not put his hands up (some eye witness reports even say that he was charging towards the officer or had his hands raised up in fists)
The officer began firing
Brown ran towards him (IIRC)
The final shots were fired (one grazing the top of his head and the last hitting his head directly)
The officer is later examined and evidence of physical injury is found (ie. being punched in the face)

Later riots and unrest begin
This continues and then begins to calm down into peaceful protests for a while
About 2 months pass
Verdict day is announced
Crowds form
Verdict is given
Crowds begin peacefully protesting
Then they start insulting and throwing things at the cops
The cops begin firing SMOKE pellets into the crowd to disputes the crowd
Shots fired (don't know who fired them but I was watching this live)
People begin leaving and now the dedicated mob is left (around this time is when the mob attempted to destroy a police car)
Armored vehicles and riot police are out
One protestor blocks their path with several supporters off to the side and many more down the road
The mob begins burning trash cans, one bicycle art thing, and a cop car
Tear gas and smoke pellets are being used now
The mob is being pushed back and they begin burning and looting in other areas
Riots and control of the streets go on all night
There are still protesters today, now nation wide

Just clarifying the ferguson thing for people that didn't get the live news feed last night

wow you know so much, were you on the grand jury? Perhaps you were present for the whole thing?

It's not like cops aren't generally incredibly racist, or that this cop had a history of racism that might have affected his judgement, or that he didn't know about the robbery, or that killing unarmed black men is actually a rather common past time for cops.