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Truean's "colorblindness" doesn't sound like that at all to me. It sounds more like Paternalism.

The logic goes, people are like naughty children who need the heavy hand of government to slap them back into line. Don't bother trying to reason with them (teach tolerance), use threats of violence "from above" (equivalent to smacking your baby) to force them into line.

Am i reading this right Truean?

One could make the argument that multiculturalism is in the First amendment of the constitution, the separation of church and state falls under the umbrella term multiculturalism.

Promoting tolerance amongst the populace for your neighbors is only the tip of the iceberg as far as "multiculturalism" goes, and that's hardly a goal limited to multicultural policy goals.

Multicultural philosophy is more about how the government itself interacts with those populations. Forced Assimilation to a single "way of life" is the other end of the spectrum. Tolerance of diverse political opinion, as well being able to dress how you like, sexual identity, are also part of a multicultural nation's identity. There's no more reason to force immigrants to dress and act like "proper Americans" than there is to force young Americans to all dress and act the same. Who is this proper American that the immigrant must

And it wasn't really that long ago that everyone had to conform to a christian, church-going, straight, conservatively-dressed "normality", otherwise bad, bad things would happen to you (probably locked up in an asylum or beaten to death in the street).

This is where the meat multiculturalism really is. We take for granted being able to pretty much act as we please without the government crushing us for not conforming to a monoculture. I read once about an Alabama man put in a mental institution in the 1943 because he told a colleague he had sex with his wife 4-5 times a week. He was diagnosed as a dangerous sex-addict. 2 times a week was the max. "normal" times.

Quote from: Reelya on April 19, 2012, 05:59:00 pm

Quote from: Jonathan S. Fox on April 19, 2012, 05:17:28 pm

Imagine that nobody is working, but each person has a vending machine in their room that dispenses, on a regular schedule, some kind of unique good that only that person has. Some people get pumpkin pies, some people get window cleaner, some people get iPhones. Each person in this community is given a fixed amount of money. They must trade amongst themselves to get the resources they need to survive. In this economy, there is no labor, but goods and money still have value. How can the absence of labor devalue anything if an economy still functions more or less normally when it is entirely absent?

In that case, there's still effort required to extract the resource. Because someone has to be in the room to collect it and there's time consumed in exchanging the goods, so even though the goods are extremely cheap compared to the real world, they're not labor or time-free.

It's easy to come up with an alternative, where a single person, alone in the universe, has a fixed budget to spend at many vending machines providing various goods. The money this person has still has value, even though no other humans exist whose time or labor can be commanded.

You have to factor personal effort into the mix. e.g. time and energy is used up accessing the vending machine, those are costs which are part of the labor requirement, hence, there's still labor involved in obtaining the resource.

Of course, all this is getting really silly with magical vending machines which required zero effort to arrive at the location fully stocked. But, it shows without the personal labor of the person in using the machines, the money still has no value.

Another point is how did the machines get there? There's nothing in the labor-value theory that says the labor must be contemporaneous with the purchase. With technological devices, labor can be substituted with "work" (in the scientific definition).

Ahh finally got around to finishing Space Battleship Yamato (season 1). That anime has really aged well considering it was made 1974/1975, great battle sequences, spaceship animations, apocalyptic plot, and the soundtrack has some great music in it. Orchestral when needed and funky action music to match the flared spacesuits.

This is really evocative for me, I first saw it almost 30 years ago when I was a little kid as "star blazers", never saw the end. Been waiting 30 years for them to get to the goddamn planet Iscandar.

On a whim, I figured I would see what the Hellsing anime was like after watching a really funny and awesome 'abridged' version of it. I figured, like most abridged series, it wouldn't be nearly as funny, badass or otherwise awesome in its actual form. Turns out it is; well, aside from the pedophile priest jokes anyway.

Was that Hellsing, or Hellsing ultimate you watched? (I haven't seen ultimate yet)

Feeling happy because I just bought my first new desktop PC in several years xD now I can run way more stuff.

I just saw the first episode of Usagi Drop, and am like "I can't wait to see more of this". I'm glad since the last few series I watched, didn't give me the same feeling at all. Too bad it'll be over so soon ;_;

EDIT: Ok, just finished the last episode, great show. And that marks my 100th completed thing on myanimelist. And it was a good one.

That big factory at the start of FLCL sure is an odd shape don't cha think? Actually everything's odd in that show.
What's with that scene with them chatting in the bus?