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First snow!  :) And it's a lot of it too! I was worried it'd be a big'ol slush mess. Maybe it will tomorrow, or even tonight, but for now it's just your standard snowstorm. And it is beautiful.

Time to play Frostpunk. :D

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 15, 2018, 09:39:33 am »
Donald Trump accuses confused Baltic leaders of starting the Balkan wars
The geography memes jack
Latvia is rightful Serbian clay
All is rightful Serbian land. Remove potato from the premises, yuo are of worst balt.

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Other Games / Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« on: November 15, 2018, 02:02:53 am »
Piety, perhaps? Conflicting traits? A combination of the above?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 15, 2018, 01:58:18 am »
Everything above applies to them, in exactly the same way, like some kind of fucked up social version of Newton's Law. "For every Crazy there is an equal but opposite Crazy across the isle."
What do the Brits have to do with this?

Damn it Karne, we just had page 1776, you can't bring the brits back. There was a whole declaration and everything. Something about "No shitposting without representation" or something.
I am of the belief that there is a problem here.  Will society blindly crumple as it swipes right?  Probably not.

But I forsee a lot of losers.  Some winners, yes, but a lot of losers.  Chances are they will lose for no real reason of their own power.  Wrong place, wrong time.
We have a lot of losers now, though. The future losers will do what bitter losers have always done: retreat from humanity and invent elaborate reasons why the rest of us don't deserve to be graced with their presence. Sure, the Internet means we can hear more from them, but other than that I see no reason to foresee any change.
A: Saying things in the future will be more like they are now is probably the most alarming statement you could possibly make in Ameripol. B: The sheer degree to which social networks have dissolved in the years since the 60s and 70s is unprecedented, not only with regards to our recent history, but with regards to American history period. The average American today has fewer local resources in the form of clubs and community since any time since de Tocqueville called us a nation of "joiners" way back when. On almost every metric of involvement that you care to look at, the trend is down. People are still doing things, but as the example which gives the book Bowling Alone its name: there are more people who bowl than ever, but far fewer bowling leagues. Political participation is down... but the metrics which are down least are things like writing to newspapers, which don't require other people.

If you doubt it, answer me this: how many organizations are you apart of, where your participation is something you actually do? That is to say, where you actually participate in the sense of volunteer and show up to meetings, rather than sending a check? This isn't to pick on you or even this forum; it's down across every demographic. Political organizations have almost all become professional, but this is at least in part a necessary change to compensate for the loss of volunteers' time. Fewer Americans then ever say that they have anyone close to them that they can talk to about important things.

My point is simply that it's a broad phenomenon, and regardless of whether or not it's "normal" or "expected", it will have consequences. Actually, that's a good reminder to the thread in general; just because something is normal doesn't mean it isn't real or a problem. Economic boom and bust cycles can be quite regular, but they're still awful for most involved.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 09:56:29 pm »
Personally, I was waiting on January and the new Congress to come before declaring the old thread defunct and inaugurating my new, improved Freedom Thread (plus I haven't had time to write up my Star Wars intro-style first post). It's traditional to wait until the new Congress sits, yes? Besides, it's only 1776; we should stop at 2018 if anything.
Going off of this research (page 6), it seems that the "behavioral sink" isn't cities. It's the Internet.
Despite all of our rage, we are just mice in a cage.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 09:49:40 am »
I don't think the median voter reads FiveThirtyEight though.
Very true, which is why I'm saying don't go spreading it around instead of yelling at Nate Silver instead :P
I don't think this thread is the median voter either.  :P

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 09:26:23 am »
It was a blue wave, by the way.
Just because Nate Silver said it doesn't make it true, and you certainly won't convince the median voter by saying so. Actually, articles like that will probably make voter exhaustion worse.
I don't think the median voter reads FiveThirtyEight though.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 03:37:53 am »
On the fuckery for Arizona in particular, such strange little things like Maricopa county in the Arizona elections having Sinema leading in it by 50,000...despite the Governor having won said county by 200,000.  Sure, there's always the possibility of a difference of opinion between the two posts, but 250,000 people doing so in a county that previously went 200,000 for McCain during 2016?  Among other things like soon after the election night when there were 99% reporting, her opponent had been in the lead by near a full point for a few days after?  Oh, and don't forget this little nugget in your thoughtsEdit: Double checked the numbers.  Seems I misread the count.  It's even larger.  Very strange, huh?
You seem to imply that strange results are in-and-of-themselves a sign of fraud. If that were true, we might as well say we should abolish democracy entirely, have the entire thing run by machines calculating what it is likely you want based on your demography. Because let us be most clear: you have no evidence. You have, at most, a feeling. A suspicion. A sense things should be otherwise. And instead of trying to explain why the evidence points the way it does, you've simply said the evidence is wrong, because it does not seem to work as you claim it should. Behold the root of all conspiracy: instead of revising the theory to fit the facts, you revise the facts to fit the theory.


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Other Games / Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:46:13 pm »
I liked that one joke from reddit: "Maybe CK2 development ended a while ago and we all just collectively imagined a DLC that was everything we ever wanted in a feverish dream."

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Other Games / Re: Fallout 76
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:23:15 am »
Shilling, shilling never changes.

That's a youtube video of the Fallout 76 stream, featuring Ninja (Fornite streamer), Logic130 (rapper), and Rick & Morty (no seriously). It's... well see for yourself.

Gotta wonder who comes up with this stuff. Some marketing guy with more funding than sense, it seems.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:00:20 am »
Ok... Once more, with feeling! Democratic victory in Arizona! AP has called Arizona for Sinema, the first woman to represent Arizona and the first Democrat since 1988.

Senate is now 51-47.


Yay... :|
Oy, I promise you that of literally all the issues you discussed in your post, this is the one with the most real and immediate effects. Show me a single adult in America who can't complain about the state of politics nowadays and I will show you someone who has been living under a rock for the last couple decades or so. But 51-47 is real stuff. Every single freaking vote in that Senate matters a big damned deal about what shit they can get through. The wider their margin, the more they can afford to alienate the saner people on that side of the aisle, the more likely it is that they can get away with crap. It matters, it matters a huge god-damned deal, it has real consequences in the real world. The thin margin in the Senate is the sole reason we did not get an abomination of a healthcare "law" that they tried to pass, and if that's not enough for you I don't know what is.
We care about truth, and it pains us so to see so many Americans ignore obvious lies.

Truth is boring. We care about bullshit, mainly because it gives us an excuse to get worked up about something.
Truth is boring, peace is boring, compromise is boring, progress is boring.

You know, I bet dying is really exciting. Really gets the blood flowing, know what I mean? Speaking of, is California still around? Or has that state realized that God did not intend that place for human habitation and is trying to shoo them out?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 12, 2018, 10:24:18 pm »
Ok... Once more, with feeling! Democratic victory in Arizona! AP has called Arizona for Sinema, the first woman to represent Arizona and the first Democrat since 1988.

Senate is now 51-47.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 12, 2018, 06:13:00 pm »
On a more traditionally political note: It's seen as increasingly likely that Democratic Senate candidate Sinema will prevail in Arizona. Still a lot of votes to count, but her lead has only widened, and the opposing candidate would need to win 57% of the remaining votes, which are from areas they're currently losing.

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This thread is really living up to the "EU-related terrible jokes" name.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 12, 2018, 11:27:53 am »
Don't half of the countries on earth now have a fertility rate below replacement? And we still debating overpopulation? Really?
Ah, but half the countries on earth contribute less than half the population! Soon, all the less-fertile nations will crumble to dust as they fall by the wayside and are outnumbered by the new world order... Then, only Belgium will remain!
Funnily enough the US falls into the category of "below replacement", but the population still increases due to immigration. And a damn good thing that is, too. Imagine the social security issues if the population was actually declining.

Don't half of the countries on earth now have a fertility rate below replacement?

Yet the planet still has positive population growth. Funny how that works.
Feh... people miss the point entirely. Overpopulation is an overblown fear. It was overblown in the 70s, and it's overblown now. Most rich countries now fear population decline, and it is hardly accidental that immigration from countries where this is not the case is now a major question accross the west. What happens if the poorer countries follow our example? Than what?

And yet people still go around claiming we need to Thanos snap or the world will end.

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