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I can report that I'm experiencing the same crash as chemax.  I'm running on windows 7 if that matters and I tried it with both my existing copy of Dwarf Fortress with a tileset and a freshly-downloaded copy of 40.24 with no tileset.

I did find something that may be helpful in debugging, however.  I attempted to run dfeverywhere by opening it from windows explorer with DF running in the background.  For both versions of DF I tried, it reported a tile size of 09x01 before crashing.

I thought it may have been having trouble locating the DF window since it wasn't the topmost window, so I created a shortcut on the desktop and tried again.  When I did that, it still crashed for both versions, but the tile size it reported was 16x15 instead.

Next, I tried running the executable through the command prompt, which also consistently reported 16x15 before crashing.

The number it gives is consistent as well.  I've done it multiple times and it always reports 09x01 when I run it directly through windows explorer and 16x15 when run through the shortcut or command prompt (except for one time when it reported 01x<something> that I wasn't able to replicate).  I noticed no difference when running DF maximized or windowed, TrueType on or off (for the tileset version) or whether or not DF was the top-most window aside from windows explorer.  When DF was minimized, it did correctly detect that and exit with an error message rather than crashing.

I've got a question about thread in adventure mode reactions.  I have an old, very-heavily-modified version of the Wanderer's Friend mod that I've since updated for 40.XX.  I'm trying to re-do a lot of the reactions to make them a big more involved, but I'm running into an issue with thread.  The old Wanderer's Friend didn't use thread very much, and when they did, it was a single piece of thread specified with [REAGENT:A:1:THREAD:NONE:NONE:NONE].  I know thread has a thing where it actually has a size of 15000 units, so I changed all the references to [REAGENT:A:15000:THREAD:NONE:NONE:NONE], and specified reactions that take multiple units of thread as, for example [REAGENT:A:75000:THREAD:NONE:NONE:NONE] for five units.  That seems to work correctly, but the problem is that reactions ask for an extra piece of thread (the screen says 0 units remaining but still prompts for another thread), although don't seem to consume that extra piece.  I tried bumping it down to 14999 and 74999, but it still asked for two and six pieces, only the screen said -1 units remaining.  Is there a workaround or a fix for this?  I guess I could always have multiple [REAGENT:A:1:THREAD:NONE:NONE:NONE] tags if I have to.

Quote from: Putnam on October 08, 2012, 08:42:42 am

Your problem is this:

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  [CDI:INTERACTION:EXAMPLE RAISE]
EXAMPLE RAISE isn't an interaction.

Really? It's under the secrets of life and death in the 'interaction_secret' text file.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[INTERACTION:EXAMPLE RAISE]
   [I_TARGET:A:CORPSE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_ITEM]
      [IT_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
      [IT_REQUIRES:FIT_FOR_ANIMATION]
      [IT_FORBIDDEN:NOT_LIVING]
      [IT_MANUAL_INPUT:corpses]
   [I_EFFECT:ANIMATE]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]
      [IE_ARENA_NAME:Animated corpse]
      [SYNDROME]
         [CE_FLASH_TILE:TILE:165:3:0:0:FREQUENCY:2000:1000:START:0]
         [CE_PHYS_ATT_CHANGE:STRENGTH:300:1000:TOUGHNESS:300:1000:START:0]
         [CE_SPEED_CHANGE:SPEED_PERC:60:START:0]
[CE_ADD_TAG:NO_AGING:NOT_LIVING:OPPOSED_TO_LIFE:EXTRAVISION:NOEXERT:NOPAIN:NOBREATHE:NOSTUN:NONAUSEA:NO_DIZZINESS:NO_FEVERS:NOEMOTION:PARALYZEIMMUNE:NOFEAR:NO_EAT:NO_DRINK:NO_SLEEP:NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN:NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST:NOTHOUGHT:NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT:NO_CONNECTIONS_FOR_MOVEMENT:START:0]
         [CE_REMOVE_TAG:HAS_BLOOD:TRANCES:LIKES_FIGHTING:MISCHIEVOUS:START:0]

The default EXAMPLE_RAISE interaction is located in a separate folder from the raw files.  It never actually gets loaded into the game.  If you want your custom interaction to work, you can just copy the interaction_secret.txt file from the "interaction examples" folder to "objects" folder.

Quote from: GuardianTempest on September 12, 2012, 09:50:10 am

[User is sleep-deprived]

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[REACTION:MAKEQUIVER_WOOD]
   [NAME:make wooden quiver]
   [BUILDING:TESTCENTER:CUSTOM_W]
   [REAGENT:WOOD:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:4:QUIVER:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:WOOD:NONE]
   [SKILL:WOODCRAFT]

[REACTION:MAKEQUIVER_STONE]
   [NAME:make wooden quiver]
   [BUILDING:TESTCENTER:CUSTOM_S]
   [REAGENT:STONE:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:QUIVER:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:STONE:NONE]
   [SKILL:STONECRAFT]

[REACTION:MAKEQUIVER_METAL]
   [NAME:make wooden quiver]
   [BUILDING:TESTCENTER:CUSTOM_M]
   [REAGENT:METAL:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:4:QUIVER:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:METAL:NONE]
   [SKILL:METALCRAFT]
Why isn't it working? Made a ranged-weapon based civ, failed really hard as to why they're not shooting.

It's not working because you're making the reagents wrong. You confused identifiers and materials.

To expand on what Putnam is saying, you have to change the lines
[REAGENT:WOOD:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REAGENT:STONE:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REAGENT:METAL:1:NONE:NONE:NONE]
to something like this:

[REAGENT:WOOD:1:WOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REAGENT:STONE:1:BOULDER:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REAGENT:METAL:150:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:NONE] (bars have 150 "parts" to them, so 150 quantity is equal to one bar)
This is because of the way reagent tag works.  It's defined as [REAGENT:<identifier>:<amount>:<item type>:<item subtype>:<material type>:<material subtype>]
The item and material tags are what define what item(s) are accepted by the reaction.  The identifier is simply a tag so that other tags can interact with it.

For example, these two interactions work exactly the same
[REACTION:MAKEQUIVER_WOOD]
   [NAME:make wooden quiver]
   [BUILDING:TESTCENTER:CUSTOM_W]
   [REAGENT:WOOD:1:WOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:4:QUIVER:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:WOOD:NONE]
   [SKILL:WOODCRAFT]

[REACTION:MAKEQUIVER_WOOD]
   [NAME:make wooden quiver]
   [BUILDING:TESTCENTER:CUSTOM_W]
   [REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:4:QUIVER:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:WOODCRAFT]
Hope this helps 

In theory, when a night creature kills a hystorical figure (like your adventurer) they keep their remains and a random part of them apears in their lair when you visit (head, bones, meat, blood, etc.). Havent tried having a companion killed by them, and then exit the site and go back in to see if theyve butchered them.

I'm fairly certain night creatures don't butcher things they kill during play, or at least I've never seen it happen.  I've lost three adventurers to one night creature before, and when I finally killed it with my fourth one, their intact bodies were still there.  This was in 0.34.07, but I don't think anything has changed since.

Two questions:

1.  Aside from the quality of items that already have hard-coded quality modifiers, is there any way of tying a reaction or interaction to a particular skill level in a particular skill?  For instance, is it possible to make a workshop that trains MAGIC_NATURE, and then give a new interaction to creatures once they have leveled up to a high enough magic level?  Or make custom cooking reactions where higher-level cooks can produce more advanced meals?

2.  Is there a way to alter the time period that a reaction takes?  Like make a workshop reaction that takes a really, really long time to complete?

1) As far as I know, there's no way to unlock reactions/interactions based on skill.

2) I believe adding more products to the reaction makes it take longer.  You could just add some kind of rock that boils away harmlessly to increase the time it takes.

Hmm, that would explain why I got Dwarf Meat[99] from that dwarf-turned-dragon I butchered.  Funny how butchering sentients is frowned upon, but as soon as the turn into a dragon they're fair game.  I'll go ahead and add that to the first post.

Urist Da Vinci is indeed correct.  I've done plenty of transformation ‼Science‼ myself, and I can say that is definitely how it works.  If you're interested, I've got a whole thread full of what I've learned linked in my sig.