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Well why isn't the free pistol in the equipment list?

The Free pistol is the first item on the equipment list, the 10mm PDW. It's a big, loud, cheap and powerful pistol that does it's job. Since you have STR10, you could use it with only a little penalty. Think of it like the Desert eagle, that beast recoils like nobody's business but whatever's hit by it will have a very bad day.

And it's Free!

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Also, I guess you could ask the DM if you can have a modified version of the Tactical pistol with it's weapon selection removed so you can only fire normal rounds and not the explosive rounds and have it be 5☼? That'd make sense.

Why does the pistol cost 15* to buy? That seems ludicrously expensive. Shouldn't it be free?

The Kreuweizer Tactical Pistol .45 Cal costs 15☼ because unlike the free pistol, you can load both the AP rounds AND the HE round magazine at the same time, bringing it's effective ammunition up to 12 AP and 12 HE. Which you can select fire at will. So not only is it a pistol, it can also act as a mini HE cannon as well and will rip unarmored enemies apart, or at least rip a very good chunk of them apart from the mini explosions the .45 was able to carry and shoot.

The free pistol only has a 15 rounds mag and can't shoot explosive bullets, that's why it's free or costs only one third of the Tactical Pistol[which also comes with a free flashlight attached on it, mind you.]

Wait, are there classes somewhere in the rulebook?

Nope! You stat and skill your characters however you like.

Alright. I'll be our sole scientist. I'll whip up a character sheet in a bit.

Someone else could also be a scientist, doubling the chance of successfully translating something. Although a Second scientist is probably not-needed.

Quote from: vkiNm on August 08, 2015, 12:32:43 pm

And yes, the 10mm Personal Defense Weapon is a free pistol.

Is it? PDWs are generally heavier than submachine guns (probably the most famous PDW is the FN-P90) You may note that it appropriately has a higher ST rating. And I'm still waiting on an explanation on how skill difficulty works exactly.
I suppose it doesn't matter. My actual problem is : I wanted to decrease ST, but there no free weapons that can be used with 8 or (any) with 9.

Well, my guess is that you could ask the GM if you could spend money on some sort of a recoil dampeners, special stocks and recoil compensators for the tip of your barrel, spending flat money to decrease the ST required to wield the weapon with extra mods. Foregrips, bipods and the likes should also help. Also, now that we're on moddings, I'm sure that putting a Bayonet at the tip of your rifle shouldn't cost you any money and give more ST addition damage for thrusts, it'd be a good idea. Because Bayonet rules.

Now, if it kept going long enough and someone managed to cook up a laser rifle, then that will most likely doesn't need ST for recoils, as laser rifles will have no recoils. But otherwise, you're going to have to spend money or points somewhere. Either to mod the gun to have lower ST requirement for recoils or buy a gun with lower recoil. Grenade launchers and stuff might not have so much recoil, though. And you don't need to aim that well with explosives anyway, as long as you don't fire at something too close to you.

Quote from: vkiNm on August 08, 2015, 11:34:36 am

you'd have a single pouch of ammo, which can hold somewhere between 3 - 6 magazines of ammunition for the default SMG depending on the pouch's and magazine's size.

Um... pouch? what? How do I learn if it's 3 or 6? Also, is there a free handgun and if not, what is the penalty for going under ST requirements?

Ammo Pouch. And I'd imagine that the GM will decide how many magazines does the pouch holds for the gun you'll be using.

And yes, the 10mm Personal Defense Weapon is a free pistol. The 5.56x45mm SMG and 4.73x33mm Carbine with an under-slung grenade launch and a single grenade is also free. But it's ammunition will cost money.

Is this based on the stick figure animation?

Hello! I'm the one who came up with this Scenario some years ago and asked a good friend to stat it all out.

Yes, yes it is based on the stick figure animation. Now Athra, [The OP] here wishes to run it and I gave him permission to.

I might even help him run it! I've so many unused ideas left! ever since our first party got wiped out in the 2nd encounter.

It was a funny story, actually. See, the whole group came in with a blackhawk gunship of sort, they landed a way's away from the castle and walked the rest of the way there.

Nothing happened at first, not really. They made it to the castle then entered it unopposed. Went up some stairs, all was too quiet, then they got to the 2nd floor and into a sort of meeting chamber. Pretty big, filled with words.

The Group's scientist used his skill and the equipment he brought with him to translate it, and it's just 'Turn back, run, go away, flee.' on repeat that covered the whole place, pretty creepy huh? when the Scientist relayed that to the team, everyone had to make a small simple fright check. They all passed.

They spotted the door that leads to another area at the end of another flight of stairs, looking up, I had everyone do their perception check. Our scout noticed something and shone their light up to the ceiling.

Yep, the ceiling was full of mobs. And everyone started shooting, which caused them to drop and start running for the group. They're pretty slow, a little durable and aren't very scary, so the guns that everyone brought was fine and dandy enough. The Heavy weapon's guy was a great help to the team, sweeping down rows of them with his HMG.

Then things started to fuck up, a horror knight was spotted coming down the stairs, and some people lost their fright check, making them a little shaky and unnerved. Our Scout [Armed with a Katana and a machine pistol by the way,] decide that it was the best idea to charge the heavily metal-clad horror with a sword the size of his whole body.

A failed attack roll and a bad dodge attempt later, he was eviscerated. The spray of blood and guts made everyone do their fright checks again.

This is when we all know that it's all FUBAR. The Heavy machine guns guy crit-failed his fright check, so he must run. But there was no where to run to, so he fought with blind terror. Rolled for how horrible things went for him.. Critted. He ended up shooting the party's doctor 3 times. The HMG rounds easily tore through the free, standard issued flak jacket the doctor had. But he won his con-check and didn't die immediately or explode and was just left wheezing on the floor in his own pool of blood.

He was the only one who knew first aid.

So to Recap. The Scout is eviscerated, HMG guy got overwhelmed by terror, the Doctor is accidentally shot by the HMG guy and is bleeding on the floor.
That left us with the Scientist [Who had the default pistol] and Rifleman [who brought the Anti-Vehicle Gauss rifle.].

The horde is coming in fast, the Rifleman double-tap the terror knight and his big, Gauss round just explodes the horrible thing, providing some comfort to the mind. The Scientist went to heal the doctor but failed his roll so the bleeding is still going. I imagine things must have been very grim for them.

They decided to call the chopper for Evac and started to run for it, leaving the terrified HMG guy to draw attention and picking up the bleeding Doctor.
They carved through the horde blocking the door, practically fall down the stairs, shot anything that got close to them, threw some grenades down the hall behind them, out of the door to see their Savior chopper coming.

They were slower than the running horde since they had to carry the doctor, but they ran long enough for the chopper to arrive and spray the oncoming horde with it's side-mounted chaingun. Awesome things those are. Too bad the Doctor lost his final con check and bled out.

On their way back, they were pursued by a small flock of flying creatures, the rifleman and turret gunner kept them away long enough for the remaining 2 to return back out of the gate.

They were debriefed, got paid for their trouble, and that was the end of our short, bloody mission.

It was very fun to run indeed. who knows? Maybe you guys will be the 2nd squad that's sent in and all of what I said is all caught on helmet cameras so you know a little bit of what to expect?

I was planning to just resign leadership on account of being more comfortable not giving commands and being responsible for other people's lives and preferring being a regular soldier. If being injured makes for a better story I guess that's fine.

I think resigning because he never asked to be a leader would be a great thing. He'll still live and work in the fort as a soldier, just now his life is in another pony's hooves instead of other ponies lives in his.

Perhaps he could talk to Isolde about it, but given how he haven't interacted with the other two guards much, I doubt he could be able to give either of them a commendation.

I'd still like Shooting Star to be the new commander, but as Jaxler said, it'd be nice to talk it out first.

Also, I apologize for my lack of activity, I've been sent to work away from my hometown, it's been 2 weeks and I have yet to see the person who I am here to replace until they return, return. They promised the 20th, but still nothing.

I may have to be out here indefinitely. :/