March 6, 2024: Dwarf Fortress 50.12 has been released.
News: February 3, 2024: The February '24 Report is up.
News: February 4, 2021: Dwarf Fortress Talk #28 has been posted.
News: November 21, 2018: A new Threetoe story has been posted.
Forum Guidelines
Here is the OP:I cheeked out your list Footkerchief, and only one* of the links was relevant to the OP.
* http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=99332.0
Nope. 5 of the 6 are directly relevant to the OP -- the one you mentioned, plus:Have an animal stockpile overrun by caged Elven merchants and goblin invaders? Have a bone setter who cant tell the difference between a broken leg and a bruised brain? Two sad sad problems with one happy solution, a job that can be dedicated to a caged, non-pet animal/prisoner, "Perform experimental surgery" in which case your haulers would drag it down to an empty traction bench and strap it down, and your Medical team would proceed to practice their craft repeatedly on the volunteer untill it is either re assigned to a cage or stops breathing. The medical team gets rapid skill ups from the educational experiment, and you free up a cage to catch something else.- For the more sadistic players, it could be nice to have their doctors be allowed to "experiment" on trapped animals or goblins. (Or at least practice dissection on corpses, as they did in antiquity and middle-age, so they would get better in all medical skills).2. the player could schedule dwarves for surgery to their specifications. In addition to clearing up a lot of the bugs wherein injured dwarves aren't treated, this would allow players with a more radical bent to schedule their military dwarves to have their body fat and extraneous organs removed so they'd move faster, or perhaps have their sensory nerves removed to make them immune to pain.Why not institute a system where they can practice on corpses?
Or, if we're talking evil- and when aren't we- captured enemies?
And the 6th, I included because of all the Frankenstein discussion in this thread:It would be pretty cool to have some ungodly frankenstien... THING that was basically a dwarf with higher DAM_BLOCK and some jacked up appearance details.
I want player directed surgery as an option. Removing flesh, applying sutures, and fixing fractures as specific commands. Or as punishment or torture for goblins.OK it does mention torture witch is mentioned in the posts you put up but none of them talked about having the player direct surgery.(Other then that one.)
As shown by a search for "surgery", this is a popular suggestion:I cheeked out your list Footkerchief, and only one* of the links was relevant to the OP.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=99332.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=78514.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=103337.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=64727.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54019.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=55679.0Spoiler: tags (click to show/hide)
"I'M COVERED IN BEES!"
Also, bees as blowgun ammo? Finally get some use out of those artifact blowguns.
I think that dwarves also regard the craft of constant alchoholism in much higher regards than anything else. This seems reflected in many of their works. Like engravings of engravings of cheese, or their diet of two meals and four drinks per season, or the fact that a newborn (dwarven) baby's first meal is probably alcohol. They need alchohol mentally.Sunberry's make the best alcohol so good regions would be the best lands for them.
But that is not good at all, that is insidiousness. If it were truly good then there would be no drawbacks.Good regions being painfully good is a paradox, ether the region is good or it is not good at all.
That is because you are going too far into the word. Remember this land isn't "Good" in the sense that it tries to do good things in the same way "Evil" Lands arn't evil at all just openly hostile (It would be like saying a Desert or Volcano is evil)
The idea of "Painfully good" is basically taking a concept that we would call "good" and taking it to its logical extreme or taking something good and applying it all the time even when it is not needed.
I mean havn't you heard the saying "That was so sweet my dentist could feel it" (admittingly I edited that because I couldn't spell a specific word)?
Possibly the best example I can think of for this concept is "Candyland" you would say that Candyland would be a great example of one way a Good land could look right? Have you ever thought of how hard it would be to survive in Candyland? Everything is made of Candy which while tasty gives little-no nutrician... The Water is drenched in sugar as well. You can't grow crops because the dirt is chocolate. Fires are pointless because the trees are Gingerbread. Plus since the animals are essentially immortal here eating them must be a horrific experience and give you terrible indigestion.
This is entirely without going into ways that this place could actively hurt you. Afterall a very common trait with "Good" locations in settings is how addictive they are or how they force you to join them.
So there you go. Candyland a good land being a horrifying death trap without ever crossing out of being "Good". It is just incompatable.
This is ignoring that so far "Good" as far as DF is concerned is closer to Whimsy...
Dwarfs don't dislike the discussion, in fact I would say that the opposite is true. I find that dwarfs are more then willing to talk about almost anything.You're suggesting that naturally numb people who are further numbing themselves with drink are more likely to cry and rage than just suck it up and deal with it?Dwarves aren't naturally numb, they're naturally unstable (if only due to copious alcohol intake). This isn't helped by their cultural tendancies towards a dislike of discussing feelings, leading to said feelings exploding out of them at inoppurtune times, and towards violence.
Personal meeting hallsAnother name for personal meeting hall could be an office/throne room?
Meeting halls should have similar functionality when placed in burrows. This would be a good way, for instance, to get your legendary mason to stay near his workshop, or your nobles to only converse with each other and gain social skills in the Forbidden Palace to prevent tantrum spirals when they die. There should be an option to toggle whether meeting halls are used for all dwarves with access, or only those assigned to the burrow. Basically, an exclusive idle zone.
