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It takes awfully long to get the started seven married anyway.

How do you turn off migrants, period?

General consensus is that you can't avoid the first two waves of migrants, but putting the pop cap on 0 should work after the outpost liaison leaves with the first caravan.

Not going to stop when they start coming. I think. I had a few years without sieges after I defeated them back to back for a while and got bored.
Is it possible to beat the green masses?

I had a legendary dining room, legendary rooms with solid gold furniture, no deaths whatsoever, engraved everything everywhere with statues lining the halls. And still kids got to 0 happiness in a few months if I didn't make clothing for them.

So in my experience the uncovered thoughts add up very quickly and they are huge hits to happiness. Especially the no pants one.

hmm. More recently I started setting them up in several Z levels when I figured out that going up or down a stair is the same as moving one square to a side. So instead of building a big 30x30 stockpile I make some smaller ones and put stairs. Didn't really do the math on how useful that is but it seems to work well enough.

Inspiring, to say the least.

Mineraft was originally planned as a total ripoff of Dwarf Fortress, then it took an arrow to the knee HERESY!!! *BLAM* then it became something almost entirely different; Minecraft's not a space management by an stretch of the word, though it's a great deal more user-friendly than DF, despite the fact that both lack tutorials.

Basically, it's the difference between normal legos and lego robotics if lego robotics could easily be mistaken for Matrix Code. Both are cool in their own way, but you can't make giant lava defense systems that inexplicably flood your farms with water, or beat back the forces of Hell itself and grow strawberries there.

Those memes in that first sentence made my eyes bleed and I almost slashed my wrists because I knew the sources for them. Sigh. I shall call  you brother from now on, because we are very similar.

I like minecraft, but my problem with it is.. that it's empty. I've built my share of grand cities with glowing towers spiraling into the night sky where gravity defying islands float and pour impossible rivers into the sea below.. but they were devoid of life, even in multiplayer.There is no purpose to whatever you build other than looking pretty. It just doesn't matter.

What I mean is: it lacks the spark of life the dorfs in dwarf fortress has, however faulty and stupid and unrealistic they are, there is no denying they seem almost alive with their vermin infested halls and sad little lives they spend as pawns to capricious and generally malicious Gods of Blood. That in my view is the single most important achievement of DF, one that Minecraft lacks.

It is totally fine as a sandbox builder though, and it is lots of fun for how much it costs and it's always nice to play it for a while when a new update comes along.