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Pressure is a good start, but this looks really slow anyway due to drying time and draining headaches and blah.  You'd ideally want floor grates every couple of hallways at least going below to drain quickly, but even then you have to wait a good while, and that adds a major civil engineering project to it.

Sorry, versions getting rolled out too quickly for this old codger to keep up with.

1) Change their tissue materials to take cold damage at a higher temperature.

Cold damage is proportional to how far below the damage point you are, so if you start taking damage at -200 degrees or something ridiculous, then -230 degree breath will do almost no damage to you. If you start taking damage at -10, then the -230 breath will likely obliterate you almost instantly.

2) Change their "homeotherm" value to be lower. This means they start out colder to begin with, so it's less effort for the breath to hurt them.

3) Change the "insulation" of layers like fat to be lower. This makes them change temperature a lot faster / weakens the influence of homeotherm.

When you embark on a map with -1000 set into the custom world gen for temperature, dwarves die outside in many seconds, but LOGS (with no homeotherm/metabolism) disintegrate in like, 1 or 2 ticks. So cold damage is indeed lamost instantaneous if it's a big enough difference and insulation is nerfed. The more you change dwarves to be similar to logs thermodynamically, and more vulnerable to cold, those breaths can be anything from useless to insta-disintegration-ray-gun.

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Made column widths even in trade view and abbreviated strings differently

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm playing DF 2014 40.14, newest release, and I still have trade columns smashed into tiny amounts of space and can't see anything.  Is there a command I'm missing that changes that? (Tab doesn't work) Seems like still an issue.

Okay so it's probably indeed some bug then. If so, I'll just use dfhack to autodump, was just hoping I was missing a button or something.

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They use the depot accessibility map. They use the depot accessibility map and follow a predefined route to its stationary destination.

So they choose a direction to go in based on a multitile relevant map of costs and restrictions?
In other words, an algorithm for multitile creature pathing.

Now create a map for every possible creature dimension and keep it updated each time a drawbridge activates or wall is built. Don't forget climbing. It's not a feasible method.

1) Single Map, not one per creature: each passable tile keeps track of how far away it is from the nearest non-passable tile, that is all.
2) Each creature explicitly stores its narrowest and widest widths and its height for pathing purposes. As well as its squishiness.
3) Totally unsquishy creatures are only allowed to path through parts of the map deisngated as wide enough for their WIDEST dimension (allowing pivoting in any direction with no algorithmic issues or overlap at any time). Totally squishy normal creatures can path through things only wide enough for their NARROWEST dimension. In between can scale in between if relevant.
4) Even if a creature has a path, it still has to check before moving or pivoting whether temporary obstacles like small creatures are occupying that space and react accordingly, not a big deal.

For animation purposes, if a small part of a creature overlaps an unpassable tile, but the map and its squishiness say it's OK anyway, just don't display that tile, and it is abstracted as an extremity squished in around the corner, etc. If not squishy, that wouldn't make sense BUT it won't ever come up if you use widest dimension, so no problemo.

keep it updated each time a drawbridge activates or wall is built.

Very easy for just the one map. You don't even have to check any further than the radius of the largest creature on file from the drawbridge or wall for updating! I.e. a small fraction of one map each time.

Don't forget climbing.

If it proves difficult, then yes, DO just forget climbing. I.e. don't let huge things climb until you feel like getting around to it. Isn't very realistic anyway that a giant sperm whale or whatever could climb without altering the landscape.

Not that I think it would be difficult. It's just a path like before, but pretty much restricted to only EXACTLY the right radius instead of "that radius or higher".  Which should ensure that some part is in contact with the wall. Or minor variation of that rule. Worst case, you just simulate the path and project the shape along it ahead of time, still not that bad.

What am I missing here? I have corpses in the halls from dead enemies. I have a refuse and a corpse stockpile outside, "dwarves gather refuse from outside" is also turned on even though it shouldn't be relevant, nothing. I also tried dumping them with a garbage dump outside. Nothing.