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Alchemy. its in the very last category "other". It will level up Sciencedwarf as a skill.

Thanks for the update, after an extensive Diablo3 break im back into it:)

As for wards, i really liked the idea behind them. Only things that bother me about the current system is that sometimes they fail to be outfitted and that you cant work with them reactively. If a plague shows up i need to wait till next caravan/liasion to order them, untill then all my dwarves are infected. In current system i just buy one of every kind and immunzie my dwarfes, nothing happens.

Short lifetime of wards would be perfectly fine if we could make them ourselves. (Sacrifizing a dwarf into a ward?)

I may overread it, but didnt the still work fine before? Why did you take out the custom brew reactions in there? i really miss making specific drinks for seeds in early game. Not a real problem, just wonderin.

To everyone not being comfortable with danger rooms: try embarking with 2/4/6 military dwarves WITH Levels in Teacher/Student (and maybe one in Organizer). I usually go for embarks with at least one Legion/berserker and give them 1Axe/Shield/Dodge/Armor, 1 Student, 1 Organizer, Rest Teacher.
Put them into 2 man Squads (else whenver combat training is organized, one of 10 dwarves goes to sleep/eat/drink and the training is cancelled).
 I Usually have Level10ish weapon/fighting and 5ish defense skills after 6-8 Seasons. Furthermore, the higher Teaching skills allow my starting dwarves to train up Recruits amazingly fast.

TLDR: Take Teaching at embark, Danger rooms are easy mode.

I have a lot of trouble concerning wards - i had a pretty early plague in my fort (the one causing fever).
I was not able to outfit a ward against it for pretty long. After trading 2 more wards i was able to outfit one against rage (hulk?) and one against black death. After one or 2 seasons, they transformed back and ever since (~5 seasons) i was not able to outfit them again.
One of my two embark wards vanished and is found under missing in the unit tab.

in the job manager (j-m) i found a way to make obsidian from stone  - in the changelog i found this reaction to be related to the magma factory (which doesnt exist anymore). Any other ways to generate obsidian without pumping lava/water?  I really want that stonebound dwarfs

Do Magic castes change their description? i have a druid training in the fountain for 1 year now, just want to know if i can see when he transforms.

My 3 automaton ambushes all did not have/use any weapon attacks. Sharpshooters and stuff all going full melee.

New invader race: Ork-elves. Female elves getting abducted and...convinced to mate with orks. Outcast race with strong/agile attributes but not accepted by either orcs or elves.

I REALLY love the magic buildings, they are looking great. Price to built is pretty low i think. The necessary iron i can melt in second summer (aka as soon as i get huge migrant wave). Mats for Philo stone can be demanded from caravan. If i dont order them, its REALLY hard, way harder then the bone/iron requirements though. Furthermore, where can i research the untranslated dwarfen rune and alike? tech research lab, but which reaction?

Training in Magic buildings is really fast too - from 0 to 7 in about 3 seasons, getting only faster now.


Great update all in all:)

 All plagues last for rougly 1 season, than slowly subside... you can battle them however, using the apothecarius.
   - Hulk, 5% go berserk, rest gets stronger/faster.
   - Death, 10% die, rest feels sickly.
   - Vomiting, 100% get sick, vomit.
   - Sleep, 100% get tired, will fall asleep randomly.

you got sleep plague i guess. should be over after 1 season.

If Illithids are a mindcontrolling centered race and their products are brains, 2 options would fit pretty well - zombie decoys or wisdom/clarity related.
Make a workshop were you can create Illithid brainmeals, which increase User's Mental stats/give boosts to Sciencedwarf, medical and alike. (You could make it like the Library, and a reaction you name "devour Illithid brain" so you can limit the Workshop to specific dwarves).
Further reactions could be instant happy thoughts (bringing from tantrum to ecstatic) or, if thats possible to mod, using a bunch of Illithid brains to reveal secret dwarfs/cult of the carp god (brains giving insight into secrets). I dont think it makes sense to be able to make an actual product out of brains, except for the alchemy/chemistry based extracts a user above mentioned.
Furthermore, the brain extract could make for a poison based weapon against enemys. No clue about the modding possibilities, but syndrome inducing rage, tantrumming, confusion, dizzyness and alike against foes. Either as syndrome Bolts or as breath attack (dwarf consuming bazillion brains becoming special caste, like the magic buildings).

Frost giants. I am only playing this mod since 1.7 or so, so i didnt see them being introduced and i am not entirely familiar with their physiology.. products that could be leftover might be ice essences, used for alchemy and weapon upgrading. For example you could combine frost giant products with your magma only metal - a metal that can only be melted by magma and an alloy cold enough to not even be meltable my magma. mostly flavor, "frostbrand weapons" or something.


New invaders. Your mix is pretty cool so far, only thing im missing is a spellcaster race (warlocks acting strange) and a highweapon race. I imagine orcs as being strong and brutal warriors, with raw powers instead of finesse. A race of agile and trained weapon users would be cool, their products could be used in the creation of superhigh tier weapons.

I really like the idea of special butchering products, would make breeding much more attractive (so far i only breed war animals and butcher everything else for the products pretty much).

For magic, i liked the suggestions Hugos suggestion. I have no clue about the modding possibilities, but having low level healing and debuffing/buffing would be great. Curing nauseous/unconsciousness from wounded soldiers early on, buffing speed, etc, inducing martial trance for high tech magic


Ps. Im sorry for my terrible spelling, im germand and didnt sleep last night  - 1.8.1 keeping me awake

@worldgen crashes:
i had them after switching to ironhand, but now on phoebus as well (truetype font on). Used pregenned worlds as well as "normal" genned small/smaller worlds. Usually occur between 20 and 60 years of world history. Will try around with rebooting and stuff but im so eager to play in the 5 year old world i created....

@blocks
thanks for the reply, will chekk that one out. with the abduction of magma safe workshop this problem will be ignorable anyways. Thanks for the reply and the soon coming 1.8.1