I'll fish it out and tidy up ASAP, when I have the time, but given what Piecewise said - should we get into frenzy and complete the Armory revamp before everyone goes off to buying stuff (maybe even advise to hold off a little), or let them do it with the old list for now, and introduce the changes afterwards?
Right now, both variants are possible, I believe. But we'd need to act soon if we decide to do so.
I'd say we do it slow and right. The armory page as is has served us well up till now, it'll do for a little while more I think.
Actually, I believe it's in a very sorry state right now, especially because of the lack of the AM in the kiosk, but that's me. And yeah, anyway going to cut up on the number of crap as we move on to elsewhere. Just supposed we could do that before we moved on for a change.
I think that origin tech should have a third separate page.
Personally, I think I'd prefer that we try not to make too many redundant pages, a single backlog armory where we dump all the outdated or extremely niche or Origin stuff seems better to me. Keep things at least a little more coherent/straightforward. But if most people would like it separate, that's fine enough as well.
I think it would be less confusing to have separate pages for recommended things, things that aren't recommended but you can still buy, and things that just don't fucking work anymore. Rather than grouping those last two into one page.
To be honest, since Armory is theoretically an official list of thinks produced/supplied/approved by Hephaestus, I'd keep everything on the page, but mark the older and less recommended items as such. Eventually, I'd hope to replace all "outdated" weapons with up-to-date "modern" ones - with the Tinker effort shaped and pointed at the most glaring cases.
Actually, my discussion with Syvarris contained some internal "ratings" of various weapons - perhaps we should actually keep those to help newcomers with choosing the equipment? With the disclaimer about certain degree of subjectiveness of a such system, of course.
Second, while I endorse the idea of getting the community feedback on this, ICly, I believe, this is part of Hephaestus Head of Engineering duties. There is already a precedent for declaring equipment obsolete and replacing it, so I believe there shouldn't be any troubles on that part.
I think this is something that might be better done communally, since the armory wiki page should primarily function for the players who need to look up things they wanna buy. That said, I don't think there'll be much discussion over the most obvious things.
Except it's by default that everything on the Armory page is endorsed by Hephaestus and produced. Which often isn't the case, really, and I would really like to deal away with that ambiguity.
And, to be honest, I think that the recommendations and "outdatedness" of items should be decided by the hardcore tinkerers, as they are most likely to see which things are
completely broken worth it and which are not. It's right up their professional interest, after all. Sure, you could argue that those with field-use experience could know better, but it's a point for tinkerers worth their salt o analyze the combat data as soon as it is available, and update their understanding of the system.
(And, well, that reason is why I initially consulted with Syv in the first place.
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