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Quote from: Loud Whispers on April 28, 2012, 05:06:41 pm

Dark fiend? A night creature. Against a well trained soldier, it's an even fight.

A dark fiend, as a night creature? No, night creatures are physically described in legends mode. So are demons, which overall makes me puzzled as to the nature of these fiends.

Yep its modded in.

Behold!!

No, what's he's saying is that if you want your custom race to not wear boots, for instance, because they have tentacles, you'll have to make it impossible for said custom race to make boots (and probably impossible for them to trade for boots). If they can acquire the normal types of armor for stance body parts, they'll wear them on their stance part.

You seem to be parsing "normal STANCE or whatever armor" as "armor for normal STANCE parts," where you should be parsing it as "normal armor for STANCE parts." Any STANCE armor can be worn on any STANCE body part. Whether the items are custom or not doesn't matter, nor does whether the body parts are custom or not.

Uhhhhhhhhhh...
Oh I think I get it, so there are only a limited amount of area to place tentacles? and depending on that area it will effect what kind of armor it gets. Like Upperbody, and lower body?

Yeah, I'm lost.

Deathclaws shouldn't be [UBIQUITOUS], anyways.  In universe they're actually quite rare, and tend to... well... depopulate the areas around them quite severely.

Yeah like how they depopulated my wastelanders. Violently. With no remorse, let me draw you guys an image of what it looked like, come back later for my edit.

EDIT:

Here you go.

body_default actually defines the body parts and how they relate to each other. For instance, the HUMANOID_FLIER is a plan that has 2 arms that are used to fly with attached to an upper body, 2 legs that are used to stand on that are connected to a lower body, and a head that connects to the upper body. It also defines the 3 parts of the arms and legs (upper, lower, and hand/foot) and how they connect to each other. In the creature, the BODY:blah token doesn't actually define the parts, it just takes them from the referred body plan.

You probably mistake 2EYES for meaning that it's adding 2 eyes, but it's not, not directly at any rate. There's actually a body plan called 2EYES that, appropriately enough, has 2 eyes that connect to a head body part. You could, if you wanted to, add eyes to the "main" plan, like HUMANOID, but keeping it separate lets you refer to the 2EYES plan for non-humanoid creatures, so it actually simplifies things. You could also make 2EYES more complicated, like if you wanted every two-eyed creature to have eye-stalks or something you could make the body plan 2EYES add stalks and eyes both.

So pretty much yes, the body_default entries are blueprints for the various forms a body can come in. They're highly modular so many different forms can be made from relatively few and simple parts; instead of needing 3 complete body plans for a no-horned humanoid, a one-horned humanoid, and a two-horned humanoid, for instance, there can be just 1 humanoid body plan and then 2 1-line body plans for one and two horns.

Okay, I guess bodies are something I just don't understand as I'm coming to realize. Even looking at the wiki. Does someone know a step by step tutorial that can teach me about bodies and give me a few excersizes or something? I am really confused on the way bodies are constructed and how parts are in relation to each other, and how to use templates.

Hm, maybe you could process wood logs/plants into "thatch"?

Can I add reactions to a farmers shop to make it produce a material used in building?

Yes. I try to do this for all my mods. In fact, my dragon ball mod doesn't replace any of the vanilla files at all.

c_variation_default is for creature variations, such as animal people and giant creatures. Toady added them as a shortcut because making giant and animal versions of the few creatures that used to have them would be even more mind-numbing then I'm sure it is now.

Ooh, so should I create my own c_variation_ file then?

I want to make a mod.
But I want to make it easy to install.
I was wondering, if my mod took like a hundred different types of entries, with changes in every type of file. Could I just make seperate files with the same format of everything needed and it will be parsed correctly? Or does it matter that my changes are added to the default files themselves? As I would like to not do this, so my mod does not conflict with anyone elses mod, except some inescapable changes. But could I in essence drag even those changes to already made civs to seperate files so people could cut and paste it into their own files themselves if they wanted?

For instance, inorganic_, entity_, building_.

Wish I knew what c_varation_default does.