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fairly sure its 34 and 102

OHHHHHH... BURN

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The reason I say its overpowered is the combination on all the damage reductions make it very easy to rocket jump all over the place without taking much damage and the knockback reduction is a noticeable difference to a good player.  To a normal tf2 player they are a sidegrade, to someone who is good they are a way to fly over the map bombing enemy meds and other soft targets while staying at almost full health.  If you havent seen how the gunboats can be alot more powerful than the shotgun in the right hands then you probably wont understand what im talking about.

  I play alot of comp team games and its a real eye opener on what weapons can be super powerful in the right hands.  For most people the loch and load and the direct hit are sidegrades, for pros, they are flat upgrades.  If a solli isnt going to be working tight with a med, then the gunboats are usually the better option than the shottie.

Mmmmmm, number of jobs in no way scales to the number of people, Location A has alot of factories, owned by the large financial center at location B, Location A will have more jobs, then people will move there, not the other way around and if the whole thing falls apart and the factories close, there are now X less jobs in the world, magic jobs dont appear at location C when people get laid off.

  Other option is (and this is what I think has happened) the factories at location A get automated over 10 years or so, the population has gone up, but all the factory jobs are gone and will never be back, a small amount of tech/engineering jobs are created in the short term then the whole factory is run by some front of house and a few maintenance people.

  Large populations can produce some jobs by themselves, but never enough to keep the whole population employed and the tech jobs created by modern systems will never employ as many people as the modern systems laid off in the first place.

  I think we are now in the position where the system we work in has to undergo some serious changes, but sadly I cant see it happening without blood in the streets, even though the system we have now seems to be geared to blood in the streets being the final outcome.

*looks over the last 3 pages of 3 arguments going at once*

Wasnt one of the things that most people managed to agree on earlier is that there is not enough real work out there for all people to be properly employed?

I recently spent 9 months out of work, in that time I sent out over 500 resumes, got many interviews, all of which had 30+ people going for the same job, the job I got lasted for 4 months, then everybody got a call on friday night not to come on monday.......


  Oh and if you cut welfare too much you will be stabbed in the street for your shoes, its a fact.  The 'tough love, everybody contributes'  is great if you live in a fantasy land.

Nah, I mean all the dodgy taking people off the election roles, not allowing people to enroll, not counting certain votes, paying to make vote machines that can be altered/defrauded in ways that cannot be detected, shutting down investigations into these issues, etc, etc.......


Ninjaed... Well ok then, if thats what is meant by 'voter fraud'  though frankly I find the idea that any one person could embark on a serious campaign to change the political landscape on their lonesome seems a bit farcical.

The Bush administration launched a 5 year justice department investigation to look for cases of voter fraud throughout the nation. 

Dont know what you hear in the US but in the rest of the world the bush administration is fairly notorious for being connected with things that look a hell of alot like voter fraud