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...So I was playing with an awesome mod which puts My Little Ponies into the DF universe. And I thought, what would make the game even more in tune with "grimdark" fanfiction (even though it already has pony-flesh cupcakes)? Wait a second... "grimdark"? In the grim darkness of the... yes, that's what it needs! TYRANIDS! And since it's My Little Pony, they'll be PONY TYRANIDS!!! And I did just that.

Found this in a 'what is the weirdest thing you've ever modded into the game' thread. Predates the original mod release by about a month. Thought it was pretty cool to see the kind of 'beginnings' of the mod.

>.> <.< Yoink

Seriously, this is a great idea and I'm loving it.

I'm not sure you'll be able to find a way to make size-dependant product, though... I think that stuff's hardcoded.

Figured out what I did. When I was looking through the folders in the zip, I accidentally only unzipped the 'bin' folder. Stupid me. It's working now.

File this under PEBKAC.

Quote from: Royal Flush on February 25, 2015, 01:46:44 am

Quote from: Jimexmore on February 24, 2015, 10:45:17 pm

Quote from: Royal Flush on February 22, 2015, 10:55:57 pm

I'm glad you clipped ponies' wings. Thank you. It meant I didn't have to. The only suggestion I can make is, while they're clipped, increased the speed of the flying caste's movement speed, to their flight speed. That way with the wings being clipped, the ponies still have a massive speed boost, but without the cool pathing that causes weird errors.(Seriously I burrowed all the fliers inside in Sorcerer's mod, chopped down all the trees, and my alicorn still got caught in mid air once I removed the burrow so I could haul stuff inside, and even putting a floor under her didn't get her to land. She just dehydrated there, unable to path back out of the air to get a drink)

Spoiler: Code change, for those who don't mind tinkering their RAWs (click to show/hide)

   [SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE_PEGACORN]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:MALE_PEGACORN]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_PEGASUS]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:MALE_PEGASUS]         
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:IMP_ALICORN]
      [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_QUADRUPED_GAITS:900:585:390:195:1900:2900] 45 kph
      [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_FLYING_GAITS:900:375:250:125:1900:2900] 70 kph

to

   [SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE_PEGACORN]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:MALE_PEGACORN]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_PEGASUS]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:MALE_PEGASUS]         
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:IMP_ALICORN]

      [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_QUADRUPED_GAITS:900:375:250:125:1900:2900] 70 kph
      [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_FLYING_GAITS:900:375:250:125:1900:2900] 70 kph

Where do we put this

This goes in creature_pony.txt

Mind, I only play basic ponies, so I haven't gone through and modified all the castes of all the other entities. I really should, but my coding time is being taken up with coding 250+ new words into the game for use in this mod.

Looking at that I think it shouldn't be too hard for anyone to just go into the which ever creature RAW and edit the GAITS so that the flying speed matches the walking speed. They would basically be making the same changes as far as I understand it.

I think that if someone can figure out how to do what you showed then they should be able to make the same changes to other races if they find the RAW for the given race they want to change. Just go in and make the numbers match and leave everything else the way they found it.

Just keep the numbers in the line below and change the numbers in the line above to match, and you're done. Now they will walk at the speed they would normally fly.

It's not hard at all, no, but some people are very intimidated by the raws(Rightly so, considering messing up one line can break the game). If you don't have any modding experience it just looks like a whole bunch of gibberish and it's hard to pick one line out from the next, let alone know exactly what a line means.

Hell, I don't understand the new GAIT tag at all. I simply don't understand what all those numbers mean and why, I just know I want X set of numbers(flight numbers) in Y place(quadreped numbers).

I'm glad you clipped ponies' wings. Thank you. It meant I didn't have to. The only suggestion I can make is, while they're clipped, increased the speed of the flying caste's movement speed, to their flight speed. That way with the wings being clipped, the ponies still have a massive speed boost, but without the cool pathing that causes weird errors.(Seriously I burrowed all the fliers inside in Sorcerer's mod, chopped down all the trees, and my alicorn still got caught in mid air once I removed the burrow so I could haul stuff inside, and even putting a floor under her didn't get her to land. She just dehydrated there, unable to path back out of the air to get a drink)

I seem to have solved the worldgen rejection. Well, I solved it by giving all the crops to everyone, actually. I'm still not sure how it works.

*Delighted squeeing*

They're getting a lot of unhappy thoughts, and they're upset and going to talk to the leader and stuff. They're just not tantrumming. I've left this fort without food, drink, beds, corpse cleanup, dining room or anything and I keep getting migrants before everyone can starve. Some of them are starving to death, one got killed by a ghost, but I'm not even getting single tantrums, let alone ponies straight going insane.

*Appears out of the woodwork* Woohoo! New update!!

One small thing(and I just did a quick test of it to make sure it hadn't changed). As for the bonemeal reaction, there is a long-outstanding bug in DF that custom reactions involving bones do not honor stack size. IE, I just slaughtered two bighorners, two dogs, and two cats, and got a whopping three bonemeal out of it, despite there being 10-28 units of bone in each stack. There is a workaround to this, but it does add a central step that increases the need of ponypower. The reaction of making bone ammunition honors stack size, and ammo can be used as a reagent in reactions. It's pretty simple to change the reaction for bonemeal itself to require 10 units of bone ammunition, instead of the bones themselves.

I fudged this reaction into working for Valikdu's mod about six months ago(I meant it when I said it's a long-outstanding bug, it wasn't new then, either) for bone construction materials from information here.

The modified reaction would simply change:
[REACTION:BONE_GRINDING]
[NAME:grind (2) bones to bonemeal (flux)]
[BUILDING:GRINDER:CUSTOM_B]
[REAGENT:A:2:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][USE_BODY_COMPONENT][ANY_BONE_MATERIAL]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:BONEMEAL]
[SKILL:MASONRY]to
[REACTION:BONE_GRINDING]
[NAME:grind (10) bone ammunition to bonemeal (flux)]
[BUILDING:GRINDER:CUSTOM_B]
  [REAGENT:A:10:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BOLTS:NONE:NONE][USE_BODY_COMPONENT][ANY_BONE_MATERIAL]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:BONEMEAL]
[SKILL:MASONRY]
This will make it so the reaction uses two bones, as intended, instead of two stacks of bones due to the bug. If you wanted to make it take more bones, simply take the number of bones you'd want it to use and multiply by 5.

For those who use bone pellets for training, it might get annoyingly micromanage-y but I'm unaware of any other work around, and careful stockpile use should be able to fix that. Set ammo stockpile to only accept lower quality ammo, and have a dedicated grinder take from there to grind bonemeal, and leave the higher quality stuff to be used by ponies for use, or some such similar thing.

Also, if I remember correctly, it doesn't require a world regen after changing the reaction in the raws.


Anyway, if I find anything else not working as intended in there, I'll be sure to pop in with what I find. I'm usually a pretty quiet tester until I find something I can identify the root problem of, so unless something big and obvious breaks, I probably won't be the most help there.