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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 14, 2013, 09:52:56 am »
The concentration of people here that don't eat tasty animal meat is astounding to me.

Personally, I am totally for People Eating Tasty Animals.  I have no compulsion to care about the morale and ethical reasons why I shouldn't, cause it is not even a factor in my decision to eat tasty animals.  Yes, I do know of what 'horrors' that may befall these poor poor animals.  I am not moved.

How about People eating dead People? Just wondering, omnivore here. By not moved, do you mean you don't find it a good reason not to eat meat, or not a good reason to farm them differently? If so, does kicking the dog not work for you? Please enlighten me.
Cannibalism: Sure, go ahead, face the consequences of it.
My monkeysphere does not extend to critters that are born and raised to be food.  Nor the wildlife that is hunted for food.
As long as it is not 'my' dog.  Of course, if I dislike the person themself, it would be pretty easy to get them into trouble...

To be clear, is unnecessary pain immaterial or not?

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 14, 2013, 09:49:22 am »
I usually tend to judge all life based upon its individual actions and intentions, rather than the form it happens to take, and thus generally don't see any entity as inherently more valuable than any other. Because of this, whenever I must fulfill my mortal need for sustenance, I'm pretty much willing to consume whatever is available to me; be it plant, insect, animal, human, or whatever.

That being said, I stand strongly against the unnecessary suffering of any life form, and strive to prevent it from occurring whenever & wherever I am able.

That's a non-sequitur, to be honest. Presumably go going via the least pain-induced, you'd focus on the less intelligent forms of life. It doesn't work in a worth vs value sense, either. If you were guaranteed the same amount of suffering would result from eating a fly or a baby, you would choose the fly. Part of this is because you're human and as such can't be entirely neutral, but i doubt that would be the prime factor.

Actually, if those were my only two options, I'd probably end up eating both of them in short order. As a single fly sure as hell isn't going to do much to stave off my hunger.
In fact, I may even come to the conclusion that the nourishment gained from eating the lone fly would be so insignificant that it wouldn't be worth the suffering brought about by devouring it in the first place, ultimately deciding to disregard the fly as a meal choice altogether.

Cannibalism is a great way to get a prion disease.

Bah, I can potentially contract diseases from a lot of things I partake in. Seeing as I've somehow managed to stay fit and healthy thus far in spite of that, I don't any reason why I wouldn't take my chances with long pork as well.

Perhaps there should be more focus on making human flesh safer for human consumption, though. After all, there's a practically limitless supply of dead people to go around, it would help us to become less dependent on farm animals for meat, and just think of all the space we'd save without the need for those pesky graveyards. It's the perfect solution!

Oh come on. You know what i meant. Shall we say a giant frog of equal size, with either choice being the only meal you'd ever need? With the exact same amount of suffering induced from either death through a carefully arranged butterfly effect.

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General Discussion / Re: Pope Resigns
« on: February 14, 2013, 09:09:41 am »
... OLD MAN HENDERSON FOR POPE 2013!

Warn me if they're using 4chan speak, please.

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General Discussion / Re: Pope Resigns
« on: February 13, 2013, 08:21:36 pm »
I demand to know the origin of your sig text in a friendly neighborhood seal kind of way. Chrysoprase requests you think upon the details. *underexploited stealth reference which redking may yet understand and seems to have bounced just enough on the rails to have garnered grudging hospital access*

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DF General Discussion / Re: Sea kittens
« on: February 13, 2013, 09:22:47 am »
Really, what needs to happen is that all of the developing countries need to skip their moody adolescence, make up with themselves or break up peacefully, and kick out any corrupt politicians. Then all the countries of the world need to have all the citizens become peaceful, educated citizens, earnestly looking for a better world without name calling, with the leaders unanimously chosen by a peaceful process to be the brightest, best, and most moral of the citizens, and then we can get some real good done around the world.

Yeah, we can't wait that long.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 13, 2013, 09:17:40 am »
Ah, thanks for reminding me. Now that i remember it, it can cause inherited problems too apparently, at least in the case of an island somewhere. I'm not one for hunting, as said factory is going to be producing food you could be eating, or well very well go to waste besides. I dislike the mindset people go into it with as well. It's never about the meal.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 13, 2013, 08:51:30 am »
The concentration of people here that don't eat tasty animal meat is astounding to me.

Personally, I am totally for People Eating Tasty Animals.  I have no compulsion to care about the morale and ethical reasons why I shouldn't, cause it is not even a factor in my decision to eat tasty animals.  Yes, I do know of what 'horrors' that may befall these poor poor animals.  I am not moved.

How about People eating dead People? Just wondering, omnivore here. By not moved, do you mean you don't find it a good reason not to eat meat, or not a good reason to farm them differently? If so, does kicking the dog not work for you? Please enlighten me.

I usually tend to judge all life based upon its individual actions and intentions, rather than the form it happens to take, and thus generally don't see any entity as inherently more valuable than any other. Because of this, whenever I must fulfill my mortal need for sustenance, I'm pretty much willing to consume whatever is available to me; be it plant, insect, animal, human, or whatever.

That being said, I stand strongly against the unnecessary suffering of any life form, and strive to prevent it from occurring whenever & wherever I am able.

That's a non-sequitur, to be honest. Presumably go going via the least pain-induced, you'd focus on the less intelligent forms of life. It doesn't work in a worth vs value sense, either. If you were guaranteed the same amount of suffering would result from eating a fly or a baby, you would choose the fly. Part of this is because you're human and as such can't be entirely neutral, but i doubt that would be the prime factor.

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General Discussion / Re: Pope Resigns
« on: February 12, 2013, 07:25:41 pm »
!!!!!, a sure sign of madness. Don't bring me to that point. One is enough.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 12, 2013, 07:23:04 pm »
I have felt the urge to laugh when i shouldn't too many times today, and American obesity is testing me. Please stop.

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General Discussion / Re: Pope Resigns
« on: February 12, 2013, 07:04:23 pm »
Woah now, slow down sunny. A black Pope is one thing, nobody said anything about an American Pope. Step too far.

+!

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Other Games / Re: Eve Online
« on: February 12, 2013, 06:14:43 pm »
Tell me, how do they prevent friends of a griefer from cashing in on his bounty?

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I really wish i could visit Nepal on demand, speaking from fairly little knowledge aside from it being peaceful and that mokeys are allowed to roam free because of their divine essence. That's where my faith in humanity is. :D.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 12, 2013, 04:51:08 pm »
I want to make a joke, but that's too depressing.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 12, 2013, 04:32:58 pm »
At the stage where we can produce affordable vat grown meat for much of humanity, we'll likely need all the space we can get.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 12, 2013, 04:24:45 pm »
I'm glad you're being intelligent about this as usual, Bay 12. I was hoping people wouldn't say that we should stop eating animals for illogical ideological reasons. However, the same counterargument still holds ground; if we don't need meat we wont bother with the animals that give it to us. They'll be mass cullings, and i suspect it would take many generations for the amount of animals that have lived human free in the wild outstrip the ones killed then or because of overgrazing and suchlike from a lack of natural predators.

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