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The problem is: What sort of issues would the CCS really take? What would be the CCS' position on, say, the death penalty? I can't really think it would be anything other than "death penalties for all"? How about abortion? Would the CCS still call abortion "Fetus Murder"? Should the CCS really back torture for criminals?

No, the CCS shouldn't be politically correct. In fact, the main appeal in a CCS game is that the CCS is fighting for a world that is anti-CCS. A world where all liberals are armed with guns and will shoot CCS at a moment's notice. A world where the police are unrestrained by morals and will break each CCS agent down into whimpering cowards. A world where Conservative juries would convict CCS terrorists and send them straight to the gallows.

Such self-sacrifice.

The LCS and CCS are both immoral and both factions are attacked by the media/police for violent actions. The LCS are hardly moral citizens... They're urban guerrillas fighting for anarcho-communism, hypocritically shouting slogans of freedom and being against capital-punishment while they blow conservatives away.

Hence why LCS stands for Liberal Crime Squad and not Liberal Freedom Squad. It seems redundant to argue that that there should be no CCS game because the conservatives are evil.

The conservative agenda would not be changed from what it is now... Just the roles of the LCS and CSS reversed... Perhaps instead of immigrants, CEO's were forced to toil in the factories for example? They wouldn't be fighting for capital punishment for all, just capital punishment... We already have a CSS in game fighting for this it just isn't player controlled at the moment!

There is no good reason why we can't extend the original game to include the ability to play from a conservative perspective. If anything it enforces the original message about violence being wrong while dispelling the myth that liberalism is 'good' and conservatism is 'bad'.

Quote from: The13thRonin on September 29, 2009, 09:49:36 am

Quote from: Servant Corps on September 29, 2009, 09:46:10 am

It's possible, but many people will hate it. According to Toady, a L+ society is funny...a C+ society is just disturbing.

I think they're probably just as bad as each other. I probably lean more to sympathize with the conservatives but only because I have a low faith in humanity.

But enough about that... This is about game mechanics! The conservatives are becoming the underdogs and we MUST have the chance to rage against the virtual liberal hate machine  !

I think what they tried to say is that L+ laws such as animals as people are goofy, while C+ laws like deathsquads, making women and minorities second class citizens are disturbing.

Since when was LCS trying to be politically correct  ? The game simulates a lot of disturbing stuff, AKA - kidnap, torture, murder, indoctrination... etc...

Surely it wouldn't be hard to reverse the game so that the player could lead the CSS?

I'd consider doing it myself if I had the book-smarts necessary.

It's possible, but many people will hate it. According to Toady, a L+ society is funny...a C+ society is just disturbing.

I think they're probably just as bad as each other. I probably lean more to sympathize with the conservatives but only because I have a low faith in humanity.

But enough about that... This is about game mechanics! The conservatives are becoming the underdogs and we MUST have the chance to rage against the virtual liberal hate machine  !

I have a bugger of a problem thats cropped up. A megabeast arrived, except hes an undead vampire lord thats the leader of a civilization (not sure which one). He doesnt attack my guys, my soldiers leave him alone but the civilians seem to run away from him. He goes around destroying my buildings, and there is nothing I can do about it.

I save scummed to when he first arrived, and tried to burninate him with magma but he seems to fly, not sure if hes magma proof or just flew over it.

Any ideas?

The Ancient Vampire can fly so I don't think melee guys will get a chance to have a good whack at him... I don't understand why he's not attacking your guys at all... He should be... Can anyone help me isolate the problemo?

[CREATURE:ANCIENT_VAMPIRE]
   [NAME:ancient vampire:ancient vampires:ancient vampiric]
   [TILE:'A'][COLOR:4:0:0]
   [MEGABEAST][EVIL][POWER]
   [FREQUENCY:5]
   [FANCIFUL][NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [NOMEAT][NOSMELLYROT][NOSKIN]
   [ITEMCORPSE:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:ASH:NO_MATGLOSS]
   [CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK][NOSTUN][FIREBREATH]
   [NOFEAR][NONAUSEA][liKES_FIGHTING]
   [CANOPENDOORS][FLIER][NOEXERT]
   [NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE]
   [NO_DRINK][NO_EAT]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:0]
   [BUILDINGDESTROYER:2][trAPAVOID]
   [PREFSTRING:extreme power]
   [PREFSTRING:awe inspiring wrath]
   [PREFSTRING:dark nature]
   [BODY:HUMANOID:2WINGS:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:NECK:THROAT:SPINE:BRAIN:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH]
   [SIZE:20]
   [DAMBLOCK:20]
   [EQUIPS]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:2:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH][SPECIALATTACK_SUCK_BLOOD:50:100]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:claw:claws:1:4:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LWING:flap, striking:flaps, striking:1:2:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:RWING:flap, striking:flaps, striking:1:2:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [DIURNAL]
   [BIOME:ANY_LAND]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:10]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [SPHERE:DARKNESS]
   [SPHERE:DEPRAVITY]
   [SPHERE:DEATH]
   [CANNOT_UNDEAD]

Downloaded and giving it a go.

No traps.  No missile weapons.  No locking doors, attackers will be faced toe to toe and eyeball to eyeball.

So far one siege, all orcs slaughtered in melee with no inuries to any soldier.  Except for the ones they already had from sparring.

This is a real man... Everyone take note.

Thanks guys.

In other news, updates will be slooooooooooooooooooooow for a few days, since I have exams this Friday and Monday.

Also because I'm working on finishing my turn in Tack's RTD and something else.

Good luck!

In the 2D version you might get 500 tiles to play with for example.

In the 3D version you might get lets say 100. Now we need to multiply tiles by how many layers there are, lets say 15 Z levels. That's 1500 tiles 3x as much as the 2D version.

Oh and keep Digging Deeper  !